Model 20 and Dana 30

Model 20 and Dana 30

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1985 jeep cj7 360 20 rear and 30 front w/warn lockers 5 speed tranny,

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Is there anything to watch out for when changing fluids? I know the past owner and owner before him did not. Are there problems resealing, leaking? While in there can I find out the gear ratio?
 
Make sure the sealing surfaces are clean before re-attaching the covers. The ring gear may have the gear ratio stamped into it. For example: 41-10 would be 4.10 gears. M-20 also has a code stamped on the outside to tell you:

Narrow Track AMC20 :

Code Gear Ratio Diff Type
AA 2.73 Open
DD 2.73 Trac-Lok
BB 3.31 Open
CC 3.31 Trac-Lok
A 3.54 Open
N 3.54 Trac-Lok
GG 3.73 Open
Q 3.73 Trac-Lok
L 4.10 Open
M 4.10 Trac-Lok

Wide Track AMC20 :

Code Gear Ratio Diff Type
D 2.73 Open
DD 2.73 Trac-Lok
B 3.31 Open
BB 3.31 Trac-Lok
A 3.54 Open
AA 3.54 Trac-Lok
H 3.73 Open
HH 3.73 Trac-Lok
C 4.10 Open
CC 4.10 Trac-Lok

As the gears inside may have been changed the best way to be 100% sure is to count the ring gear teeth and divide by the # of teeth on the pinion gears. Don't be alarmed if the front and rear are slightly different, say 3.54 & 3.55, as this matters not at all unless you get over about a .07 difference.
 
How tight on the bolts? Impact?
 
I just snug them with a ratchet.
 
Thanks for the info guys!
 
Just pay a little extra attention on the gasket for the AMC20 . Sometimes they can be a pain to keep in place while installing the cover. Some just use RTV and no gasket. The Dana 30 is easy to do.
 
Here is an important question. What fluid goes in and what make is recommended.
 
Yep... 20 & 30.

85w-90 gear oil. Plain ol' dino oil or synthetic, your choice.

If you are going off-road a lot and may get into water I would not spring for synthetic as you need to change it often to avoid failure due to contamination.
 
Thanks for the info!
 
Yep... 20 & 30.

85w-90 gear oil. Plain ol' dino oil or synthetic, your choice.

If you are going off-road a lot and may get into water I would not spring for synthetic as you need to change it often to avoid failure due to contamination.

^^what he said^^
 
One more question, how much fluid? To the fill whole?
 
Yes fill to the fill plug. The 30 I think takes around a quart. The 20 a little more than a quart, maybe 1 1/2.
 
Thanks, napa has the gaskets
 
Ummmmmm...... I counted gears. 43 ring, 14 pinion. 3.07 gear ratio. This may explain why the clutch was so bad, there are 35's on this thing. I should be at least 4.11 even on 33's right?
 
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Ummmmmm...... I counted gears. 43 ring, 14 pinion. 3.07 gear ratio. This may explain why the clutch was so bad, there are 35's on this thing. I should be at least 4.11 even on 33's right?

Correct..you are a little high geared for 35's
 
Will I damage anything by running em for a while. I understand the clutch, but motor wise.
 
Will I damage anything by running em for a while. I understand the clutch, but motor wise.
No. You're powerband will be less then desireable, but that's about it.
 
Does 900 installed sound right for front 30 new carrier and superiors and superiors in the model 20. Mini and master kit
 
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That sounds pretty good for parts and labor. What kind of warranty does it come with?
 

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