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T176 transmission

T176 transmission

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'85 CJ-7, 258 I6, T-176, Dana 300
Starting the rebuild on my T 176. Any recommendations on how to pull the Rear Main bearing and Main Front bearing?

I picked up a bearing puller/separator kit from Harbor Freight but the separator component is designed for much smaller bearing so it keeps popping off once I get it under load.

I thought about keeping the snap rings on for extra grab but I didn't receive new snap rings in my rebuild kit so I don't want to ruin my pair....

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

:chug:
 
I just did mine. They are not on there very hard. I think I used a chisel between the bearing and collar, working around the outer edge to start it moving, and then kept increasing the size of the wedges tapping them in alongside the shaft. I used different sized flat screwdrivers, one on each side.

Don't nick the shaft.
 
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So did you actually remove the shafts from the Transmission while the bearings were still on? Then remove the bearing once the shaft was out of the case?


Uhmmm. That was 2 weeks ago and I don't hardly remember what I had for breakfast.

Tell you what, PM me your email and I'll send you the instructions I got from Novak.
 
I'm using the Novak Master rebuild so I'm sure our instructions are the same, at least I hope so.

They just say to pull the bearing while the shafts and everything is still in the case.

They reference a "bearing puller" tool in their drawings but it's not something I have had luck finding online.

The tool shown is "amc tool j-25152" also pictured in this link http://www.toeksplace.com/jeep/amc/6_ManualTransmission.pdf with more detailed information. Looks like they use a similar one on the input shaft bearing as well.

I figured 3 jaws pullers would work but they do not have narrow enough teeth to fit in the snap ring groove...
 
I'm using the Novak Master rebuild so I'm sure our instructions are the same, at least I hope so.

They just say to pull the bearing while the shafts and everything is still in the case.

They reference a "bearing puller" tool in their drawings but it's not something I have had luck finding online.

The tool shown is "amc tool j-25152" also pictured in this link http://www.toeksplace.com/jeep/amc/6_ManualTransmission.pdf with more detailed information. Looks like they use a similar one on the input shaft bearing as well.

I figured 3 jaws pullers would work but they do not have narrow enough teeth to fit in the snap ring groove...


OK. You forced me to put my thinking cap on, haven't worn it in ages.

Tap out the big shaft from the lower gear cluster and let it fall to the bottom.

Then remove the front bearing retainer housing. The front input shaft and bearing will easily pull out the front of the case by hand, (almost) and all the needles inside the shaft will fall into the bottom. No problem.

Then, with the snap ring still on the rear bearing, support the main gear cluster by hand so it's not hanging on the bearing and tap the main shaft towards the front. The shaft will slowly move forward as the rear bearing is held in place by the snapring against the case. Or, turn the case vertical so the cluster hangs and tap the shaft down from the rear. (Just thought of that now.)

You need to TAP this shaft. Only hard enough to get some movement. Don't pound it hard and do not mark up the end of the shaft. I may have used a drift that was smaller than the shaft diameter so I didn't mark up the splines. No, Wait, now I remember, my shaft was junk, I pounded the snot out of it. Not recomended if you want to save the shaft.

Upon assembly use the Vaseline for the needle bearings as suggested. It holds the bearings in place so good that I did not use any of the recommended dummy shafts to keep them in place. Just go in gently with the cluster, line it up with the housing hole real good, and slide the permanent shaft in place.

Check the splines on the end of the main shaft to see if they are worn. They should be a consistant thickness and tapper the full length.

And when you put the shaft through the lower gear cluster, which is one of the last things to do, use 2 pieces of small rope or nylon strap to lift the lower cluster into position. You can't get your hands in there to do it.
 
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I've been busy with the spring cleaning at the request of someone other than myself. I will give your recommendations a shot and let you know how I fair. Thanks for your advice, it's greatly appreciated!!!
 
S76-
I've been busy with the spring cleaning at the request of someone other than myself. I will give your recommendations a shot and let you know how I fair. Thanks for your advice, it's greatly appreciated!!!


Been there, done that! No wait, I'm still there and I'm still doing that. :D
 
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Just thought I would let you know that I was finally able to get that rear bearing off the T-176 . What a bear. The front one slid off smooth as silk. Thanks for you'r input it was very helpful.

Just out of curiosity what fluids would you recommend in the T-176 and the Dana 300 ?

Thanks again!!!
 
S76-

Just thought I would let you know that I was finally able to get that rear bearing off the T-176 . What a bear. The front one slid off smooth as silk. Thanks for you'r input it was very helpful.

Just out of curiosity what fluids would you recommend in the T-176 and the Dana 300 ?

Thanks again!!!

Awesome. Glad it worked out.

What fluid to use? You trying to start a fight or something. :)

I've read these transmissions used ATF in the early years and like an 80W90 in the later years. The Transfer Case also uses 80W90, or 75W90 or whatever.

I will probably use 30% ATF and the rest 75W90 in both boxes. Why you ask? I just like to try different things. I want the fluid thinner for better cold weather performance. But I suspect ATF alone will make the Transmission louder. The thicker oils keep the noise down.

However, I am sure almost everyone here will tell you to use 75W90 in both.

A synthetic oil would be good too.
 
Redline MT90 in a T-176 .........:chug:
 

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