Winch

[Hillarie]

I have searched several forums and I know there are a ton of opinions out there about winches.
Is a back country 9000 for 299.00 a good deal? I would love a Warn 8274 but $ not in the budget. I have never had to use a winch but I do go out alone sometimes (I have seen the threads for this too) so looking to get something in case.


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[Lumpy Grits]

Winches more than anything else. You get what you pay for.
That brand is China made.
Is this what you are talking about?
9000 lb. Off-Road Vehicle Electric Winch with Automatic Load-Holding Brake

FWIW: My Warn 8274 came on my '77 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ-40. It has been on my Jeep, since the day I brought it home from the dealer. Worth every dime! More than once, I've had to used every bit of my AMC 150 ' of cable and then some.
LG

 

[Torxhead]

Winches more than anything else. You get what you pay for.
That brand is China made.
Is this what you are talking about?
9000 lb. Off-Road Vehicle Electric Winch with Automatic Load-Holding Brake

FWIW: My Warn 8274 came on my '77 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ-40. It has been on my Jeep, since the day I brought it home from the dealer. Worth every dime! More than once, I've had to used every bit of my AMC 150 ' of cable and then some.
LG

From what I have read mostly thru the forums those HF winches have got some pretty good reviews. I would say though what winch you get would have a lot to do with what kind of terrain you will venture through. If you get serious enough for a heavy duty unit, you might want to consider using dual batteries as they do suck a lot of juice. For me here in a very dry state and having lockers front and rear, winching is mostly done to get somebody out of trouble.

 

[Hedgehog]

I've only used it sparingly, but it wouldn't have made a difference if it were a Warn (a winch I lust after), but my Badlands 12000 lb winch has worked very well. Mrplaybass just wrote some glowing things about getting seriously mud stuck. His H-F winch had no problem pulling him out. I'd wait and get the 12000lb model. It's frequently on sail for around what you are able to spend.

I to live in a dry climate. The first time I used my winch the CJ was buried up to the axles in what I call talc sand, others call it flower or sugar sand. Horrible stuff, I was on the flats following a trail established by a couple ATV's who made it through but broke up the surface pretty well. The CJ just plain sunk straight down. It was a long reach anything solid. The winch surprised me at having more than 85' of cable (the big Warns have more length), enough to find a tree. The winch didn't even sweat pulling me out. I don't have duel batteries, but there was plenty of power left. Duel batteries would be a good choice, but where to put the extra battery?

 

[Lumpy Grits]

The biggest turnoff, is the fact that there's NO parts support at all with those HF winches.
LG

 

[Hillarie]

Great feedback!!!
I don't anticipate getting stuck. I live in the desert for now so if anything it would be sand. Or possibly high centered or something. Operator (me) error is highly possible.
LG it is a HF 9000 your link was perfect.
This CJ is the heaviest thing I have driven so who knows what will happen.

I have been pulled out of a creek bed (I panicked went too fast and flooded the carb) in a different jeep but that's it so far.

I will check out the badlands too.

Thanks so much!!!


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[Torxhead]

A winch accessory kit is also good to carry along with you, and have secure tow points for someone to hook on to or using a snatch block. a military grade shovel is another thing to carry.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

If you think for one minute, you won't get stuck in the desert. You are delusional!
IMHO-You would be better served with on-board-air, to air up your tires after play'n in the desert. You DO air down for off road, 'rite'?
If you don't have somedangthing to attach that cable to. A winch is worthless.
In my Jeep'n life. I have pulled out folk far more times than I have used the winch formyownself.
DON'T get me started about folks that go Jeep'n by themownselfs...
I was the one that found the remains of a good friend of mine, when I was with a county SAR unit. He liked going out by himself also...........
Think about the folks you will leave behind, and what that does to THEM!
LG

 

[mstar]

Just a couple comments for you to consider. First off I have no problem with the H/F stuff.I watch C/L regularly and was able to buy a 8274 warn winch with fairlead,controler,winch cover and a good cable for $375.00.
I no that's a screamin deal .But there are others out there.It's sitting on the floor waiting for a home (maybe a future trailer). The other thing is getting stuck.I have had to winch my jeep out of compromised spots out in the middle of the sand dunes. A deadman really helps on those deals.
Happy jeep'in and hope you don't need that winch to often. Mike

 

[Hillarie]

I have a list started for things to take that are a must.
Old farm roads and archeological roads are what I travel mostly-
My 98 Toyota Prerunner has gotten me to most places I wanna go. I also always tell where/when/arrival to someone.
I will look on CL too

Great info and thank you!


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[Hillarie]

If you think for one minute, you won't get stuck in the desert. You are delusional!
IMHO-You would be better served with on-board-air, to air up your tires after play'n in the desert. You DO air down for off road, 'rite'?
If you don't have somedangthing to attach that cable to. A winch is worthless.
In my Jeep'n life. I have pulled out folk far more times than I have used the winch formyownself.
DON'T get me started about folks that go Jeep'n by themownselfs...
I was the one that found the remains of a good friend of mine, when I was with a county SAR unit. He liked going out by himself also...........
Think about the folks you will leave behind, and what that does to THEM!
LG

LG point taken. Finding folks going where I like to go is tricky. I am not a true off roader- more of a destination finder.

I have never aired down but that is on my list too.


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[Peanut Butter]

When I had my Jeep Cherokee I bought a Warn winch for it. Where I was going in Colorado I needed the best I could get. When your in the middle of thousands of acres of woods that's on fire, you can't afford a catastrophic failure. Now a day, not so much, so yes I would buy a HF winch. For the price, the amount that I would or would not use it, and for the confidence that I had it - worth the money. Yes there are other things you can spend your money on, but few of them would be easy to get for around $300.

 

[Posi]

For folks not wheeling or using your winch much, especially if your rig sits outside. Pull some rope to exercise your winch before you hit the trail. Solenoids can stick when not used often. If they do, most likely a good cleaning will cure it.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

LG point taken. Finding folks going where I like to go is tricky. I am not a true off roader- more of a destination finder.

I have never aired down but that is on my list too.


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Are there no Jeep clubs in your area so you can 'learn-the-ropes'? You really should seek out a mentor or such that can guide you.
A few members here live in AZ.
Airing down is the first thing you should do for cross country travel. It reduces the beating to you and your jeep and helps a great deal with traction.
I run my 33" BFG/AT tires at 26psi on the street-Off road they are down to 12-14psi. When playing in the sand 8-10psi.
LG