Anybody running Revolver shackles on the FRONT ???

[havokstorm]

I was thinkin about putting some on but not sure of the stability up front with them,

thanx for any replies

 

[kickitandholdit]

(NEVER TRIED THEM) but from what i understand the design drops the axel down but doent actually allow any weight on the low end of the axle therefore not really giving more traction. I think they are more for show (being able to stretch really far for cheap but not actually giving more traction)

So to dumb that down a bit.. Yes you get more flex but it is unusable flex. And yes alot of people have reported problems with them.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[havokstorm]

i guess i really never thought about it like that,

i guess if you ran a locker and the and one side was being forced upward then the other side of the axle would be being "forced" downward then it may provide traction needed, wouldnt it?

 

[kickitandholdit]

adding a locker will always help alot. if you adding nice suspension to get more flex your obviously driving though bad enough situations that you should have a locker anyway.

Sorry i dont quite understand your point. but ill try to answer

The revolver shackles dont really allow alot of up travel and often dont clear or bind up

in flexing situations say normally the right tire goes slightly up and stops and the left tire is hanging in the air due to a lack of suspension flex. (one tire not touching the ground=loss of traction)

well with a nice suspension the the right tire goes up the the left tire goes down with weight on both tires (both tires touching the ground and good pressure on both tires=good traction)

with revolver shackles the the right tire goes slightly up and stops and the revolver allows the left tire to "hang" down but no pressure on the left tire. (both tires on the ground and there is only weight on one tire=same traction as normal suspension) If you have a tire touching the ground with no weight on it, its pointless. therefore your loosing just as much traction as stock suspension.

These thing have been known to bind up and cause problems and just not work

with a nice suspension you get alot of flex so you can have good weight and traction on both tires.

With revolvers all the weight is on one tire and you will only get good traction with that one tire.. the other tire will hang down to look like nice suspension.

 

[CJim7]

Everything I've seen and heard....Revolvers just have no place up front. They are an unpredictable entity and the frontend of the vehicle is the last place you want unpredictability

 

[kickitandholdit]

Everything I've seen and heard....Revolvers just have no place up front. They are an unpredictable entity and the frontend of the vehicle is the last place you want unpredictability

same here. some people say they are ok on the back but i have seen clearance problems on the back. I have done tones of research on these because i was thinking about getting some.

Aslo if your doing up hill climbs you will get tons of wheel hop because they will flop open and closed and arnt very stable in that situation wheel hop can break stuff and cause all kinds of uncool problems.

I just wouldnt want some flopy unpredictable shackles up front... you would probably be fine going down the road with them on the front but you got to think of it like this.. Say you run over a deer and you hop the jeep you wouldn't want floppy twisty things on the front. just not worth your life

 

[havokstorm]

i had heard the same thing about hill climbing and wheel hop in the rear,
the rear of my jeep has nice flex right now with the SOA,

i am undecided on how i wanna tackle the steering in the front if i do the same there,

anyone know a good way to get flex with a SUA, like i said before i lift springs that are on the front now just suck

i could have welded square tubing to the axle from the frame and got the same suspension, lol

 

[BusaDave9]

I was thinking of getting revolver shackles for my rear. So then I started to check out what people on the internet were saying. A lot of people have broken their leaf springs after getting revolver shackles. They allow the shackles to flex like crazy but the other end of the spring still has a big poly bushing on a solid mount on the frame. That's why they break.
To get a lot of flex you could try Orbit Eye Bushings from Alcam Springs. They allow both ends of the spring to flex. The problem with them is you need new springs and mounts.
Orbit-Eye Springs and Bushings

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[havokstorm]

I just talked to the guy at Alcan, (very cool dude)

I think i may go with there springs SUA and see how that works for my jeep.

I am gonna start a new post asking who has used there springs,

I am not gonna use the orbit eye bushings, however, because i do a good amount of street driving and the body roll would become an issue

Thanx for referring there site, and thanx to everyone that chymed in on this thread to help me out, check out the Alcan thread i am gonna post to see what feedback we can get on there springs, ( 6 leaf setup so it should be a more progressive pack than the junk i have now).

 

[Old Dog]

I was thinkin about putting some on but not sure of the stability up front with them,

thanx for any replies

Nooooo, really not a good idea. I know a guy that tryed running them in the rear, he took them off after a couple trail runs.

I've though about the orbit bushings Dave posted. I don't know anyone that has tryed them, but they look like they would help a trail jeep.