Clutch entertainment and question

[jakeh937]

So I ordered a new clutch kit and everything was great. Got my new bell housing got everything cleaned up, painted, installed and Transmission ready to go. Replaced my pilot bearing, everything was good. Spent most of the day yesterday and about half he day today attempting to get this god da*n Transmission in. Pulled everything apart twice, verified clutch fit shaft, verified clutch/pilot alignment, nothing. I decided today to pull the pilot bushing out and lone and behold the culprit. I must have buggered up the end while putting it in and it wasn't sliding over the shaft. So I'm ordering a new pilot bearing. I have the jeep T-18 . Will a pilot bearing specific for my year and model jeep work? I think it will I was just curious. Also anyone ever run Dorman? It's about the only one I can find


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[Torxhead]

You should be able to measure the o.d. and length of the pilot bushing required by checking the bushing hole size at the end of the crank. The i.d. of the bushing will fit on the end of the tranny pilot shaft. If your CJ came with that tranny, then the pilot bearing should be ordered for your engine/Transmission combination. My
Advance Adapter catalog shows that the Jeep T-18 pilot bushing is either .625" or .670" diameters.

 

[jakeh937]

You should be able to measure the o.d. and length of the pilot bushing required by checking the bushing hole size at the end of the crank. The i.d. of the bushing will fit on the end of the tranny pilot shaft. If your CJ came with that tranny, then the pilot bearing should be ordered for your engine/Transmission combination. My

Advance Adapter catalog shows that the Jeep T-18 pilot bushing is either .625" or .670" diameters.

The one I ordered has a measurement of .673. I'll compare with the one that came in my kit. I was just curious I'm hoping it's the same size


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[mtnwhlr]

I have always slid the bushing on the shaft before installing to make sure it is correct.

 

[jp360cj]

I decided today to pull the pilot bushing out and lone and behold the culprit. I must have buggered up the end while putting it in and it wasn't sliding over the shaft. So I'm ordering a new pilot bearing. I have the jeep T-18 . Will a pilot bearing specific for my year and model jeep work? I think it will I was just curious. Also anyone ever run Dorman? It's about the only one I can find

As long as you have a '76-'79 CJ T-18 , a pilot bushing for a '79 CJ should work. The T-18 and T-150 for those years uses the same size pilot bushing.

How did you install the bushing? Being brass, it's not very hard to mess one up. An aluminum seal installer works well.

 

[jakeh937]

As long as you have a '76-'79 CJ T-18 , a pilot bushing for a '79 CJ should work. The T-18 and T-150 for those years uses the same size pilot bushing.



How did you install the bushing? Being brass, it's not very hard to mess one up. An aluminum seal installer works well.

Perfect info thank you. I did it being stupid and in a hurry. Got it started with a socket and sent it in with a brass punch. This go around I'll grab some bushing installers from work and will use the old one to beat against. Unless there is a better way?


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[jp360cj]

That will probably work. I used a bearing race/seal installer like this from harbor freight.

 

[jakeh937]

That will probably work. I used a bearing race/seal installer like this from harbor freight.

I'll rent one like that while picking it up. I used that same kit to install some bearings on my Transfer Case . I feel relieved that the T-150 and T-18 share the same bushings. Gives me more hope that it'll be the right one haha


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[Lumpy Grits]

Did you ck fit the bearing to the shaft, before install?
You can use the backside of a socket, to seat the bearing into the c'shaft pocket.
Soak in oil before install.
LG

 

[jakeh937]

Did you ck fit the bearing to the shaft, before install?

You can use the backside of a socket, to seat the bearing into the c'shaft pocket.

Soak in oil before install.

LG

Ya it went on smooth and fit like the one I took out. I must have buggered up the end ever so slightly because when I took it out it did not fit on the shaft. I turned it over and it slid on right up until the other end and stopped. I put some anti-seize on it before install. I didn't know about soaking it in oil.


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[Lumpy Grits]

NO anti-seize...........
Make sure you have the bushing all the way seated, as far as it can go.
Find a socket that will just fit inside the c'shaft pocket, and use the back side of the socket to seat the PB in place.
LG

 

[jakeh937]

NO anti-seize...........

Make sure you have the bushing all the way seated, as far as it can go.

Find a socket that will just fit inside the c'shaft pocket, and use the back side of the socket to seat the PB in place.

LG

Interesting. Why no anti seize? I figured it would be good.


And by seated as far as it can go... are u talking fully against the crank? I had it flush with the crank as that's where the other one was sitting


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[Lumpy Grits]

I have always seated as far as they will go in. UNLESS instructions say otherwise.
Anti seize may plug the pores of the oil-lite bronze bushing.
Use a Q-tip, and wipe the pocket in the C'shaft with engine oil before install.
LG

 

[jakeh937]

I have always seated as far as they will go in. UNLESS instructions say otherwise.

Anti seize may plug the pores of the oil-lite bronze bushing.

Use a Q-tip, and wipe the pocket in the C'shaft with engine oil before install.

LG

Very interesting. Thanks for the knowledge!


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[MrJeepNut]

When I did the clutch on my SR4 , I had a heck of a time getting the tranny back in. My buddy and I wrestled with it for an hour, to no avail. After trying every adjustment we could think of on the tranny jack, we're staring at each other, thinking "now what?". Then he walks over to the work bench and picks up the old pilot bushing, which I had replaced with a new one. He stares at it for a moment, and says "aw geez, look at this". The inner edge was beveled a little bit on one side, but not the other. So we pulled the clutch off and popped the new pilot bushing out, and sure enough, I had put it in backwards. We pounded it in the right way, put everything back on, and the tranny went in on the first try.

Not sure if the T-18 bushing is the same, but given your struggles, I have to wonder...

 

[Lumpy Grits]

I have found that using sections of 'all-thread' threaded bar stock, in the top tranny mounting holes in the bell housing. Goes a long way in making the re-install easier.
LG