Help with steering column wiring

[oldjeeplady]

I have the main job of designing the wiring for our CJ5 build and I need some help.

We are using a tilt steering column from a 97 Grand Cherokee for our '59 CJ5 build. We have removed the airbag activation module. We would like to be able to use the key switch, turn signals, dimmer switch, hazard switch and horn. The wiper controls probably wouldn't work with our vintage wipers - there is no delay or washer on our CJ. No cruise control either...

I have found some diagrams on the Autozone site, but they only show wire color that you would have in the harness and not which pins they connect to. I have had no luck trying to find out the pin-out identifications for the two main plugs in this column. There is a 7 pin plug which is connected to the ignition switch and with an ohm meter I have been able to identify some of the connections by changing the position of the key switch and then testing what is connected. There is also a larger 23 pin plug which seems to have the connections for the turn signals, hazard switch and lights that I have found so far...But my method of discovery is tedious so I was wondering if anyone had access to the pin-outs for this column. These plugs are made up of various widths (probably based on current/load) of spade terminals and the wiring harness has the correct mates. I was just going to use individual spade terminals since I don't have a harness for a 97 Grand Cherokee.

Here are some pictures:




If anyone could help or tell me where I can find this info I would sure appreciate it. Thanks!

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Your gonna have to find a factory wiring diagram for that GC.
I would look at some of the Cherokee forums.
Good luck,
LG

 

[Posi]

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Tom 'Oljeep' Collins Mid-size jeep wiring page

 

[Lumpy Grits]

THX Posi-I've bookmark'd it.
LG

 

[oldjeeplady]

Thanks Posi.
Those schematics also just show the wire color and not the pin out definitions. If there is a drawing there showing the harness I cannot find it. It's also good to look at his sample drawing to understand the way these are laid out. This will still be a help.

I can keep working with my VOM...

Thanks LG - I also wondered about a Cherokee forum...we have so many different years of parts we need a whole stack of manuals. I can join yet another forum as "oldjeeplady" (but none as friendly and helpful as this one!!)

 

[oldjeeplady]

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Tom 'Oljeep' Collins Mid-size jeep wiring page

While I didn't find all the info on the steering column this site has a ton of ref material. I searched around it some and I now have FSM for our '75 Dana 30 and 44 axles, T-14 and Dana 20 . Thanks again!!

 

[Posi]

This may help, section 8W

http://www.uscars.biz/uscars/jeep-documents/1997_Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_Electronic_Service_Manual.pdf

 

[oldjeeplady]

This may help, section 8W

http://www.uscars.biz/uscars/jeep-documents/1997_Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_Electronic_Service_Manual.pdf

Thank you so much! It took a while, but I WAS able to find the connector names, colors, and pin out definitions. I'm not surprised you were able to help. You are such a wealth of knowlegde!!! Every time we run into a snag on our build I tell my husband that you would probably know the answer.

We so very much enjoyed riding together during the trail ride last year. Thank you for being our friend!

 

[Posi]

Your a great couple, and thank you for the kind words and having me along for the ride, totally enjoyed it.
That goes for 007 as well.

 

[TeamRush]

You might try the dealership.
The guys at my local dealership will photo copy the factory wiring harnesses for me when I'm doing something like this,
And I can trace each circuit to see how the factory wired it.

I agree that pin out doesn't help in a lot of cases since you don't know how they wired the rest of the circuit.