Jeep Cj5 steering column rebuild (tilt)

Jeep Cj5 steering column rebuild (tilt)

brownrxmd

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1980 Jeep Cj5.
5.3 Vortec
SM465 transmission
D300 Transfer
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When I did my conversion one thing I never liked was the fact that the steering wheel was never perfectly straight. Also there was a some up and down and side to side play in the column. So this write up is how I cured it. I'm not a steering expert by any means and out of fear of screwing up my steering column beyond usability I bought another column from a salvage yard in New Jersey, with shipping the total was about AMC 150 bucks. The following is my tear down and rebuild. You might notice the steering column mysteriously changes colors and in fact the red column has a column shifter on it. For clarity I googled some images I needed to fill in the blanks. To me this column is like taking apart a Chinese puzzle.


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My steering column is a tilt column and I wanted to retain the tilt feature. So maybe I'm a little chubby, or a full blown fat*ss. But hey, it's my walking around weight.

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Though this isn't a pic from my jeep it's what you should see in most cj's. To remove the column you have to remove this nut and bolt on the intermediate shaft.

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When I got my column the end of the shaft looked like this, it had a ujoint on it. I thought I was hosed. I used a cut off wheel to carefully cut this off. If you rebuild a column with this on it be very careful not to damage the splines on the intermediate shaft. To my pleasant surprise the intermediate shaft was "grooved" so that the coupler bolt and nut would go back on.

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Once the column is on your dinner table you will remove these four bolts holding the mounting bracket to the column.

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After removing the steering wheel you'll see this plate, it may not be exactly like this plate but there will be some facsimile of one here.

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Under the plate you just removed will be this plate. It is held on by a metal clip. To remove this plate you have to remove the clip. To remove the clip you'll need a screw driver and a steering column tool.

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Once that is off you'll be at the turn signal switch. I replaced mine. The turn signal arm is screwed onto this. The plastic where the turn signal arm attaches is prone to breaking and gives a lot of play to the turn signal arm. My arm had some rust pitting on it so I ordered a new arm also. You should leave your arm screwed to the assembly as you'll have to move the arm to the left and to the right to get to two phillips screws underneath. You can only see one screw in the pic. Oh and on the right side of the column there is a small arm for the tilt feature, it simply unscrews by turning the arm like you're backing out a screw.

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Once the turn signal is removed There are three large phillips screws to remove. Looking the key mechanicsm you'll see a small "tang" that when depressed and the key in run the key lock will slide out.

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Just under the lock there sits this horn and key signal contact set.

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With the lock and three large phillips screws removed the upper cover should slide off.

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I used a phillips screw driver to remove the tilt column spring. You can see the small tab on the bottom of the spring cap. firmly press the cap into the column and turn and the spring will extend out.

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This shows the rack that engages the ignition switch. When you turn the key the black plastic piece engages the metal rack and that forces the rack to slide down the column pushing a rod that engages the contacts in the ignition switch midway down the column.

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Remove the small bolt and spring.

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After removing the spring and small bolt the switch cam slide off and allows the rack to slide out. There is a small spring that sits on the face of the rack you are about to slide out. Be careful not to lose this spring.

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On the sides of the column is the bolts that hold the tilt mechanism in place. I didn't have a tool to remove these so I didn't tear the column down any further.

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If your column is wobbly or makes odd noises then most likely this bearing is the culprit. There are two sets of these bearings in plastic retainers. The bearings will just fall out so be careful here. I replaced these bearings and made sure they were lubed with white grease.

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These two rings hold the upper bearing in place.

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I used a clamp to press these two together. You can see I really clamped them together a little too much. The bottom picture shows I had to play with the fit a little to get it right.

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This is how that bearing and retainer look when reassembled. After lubing the bearings it was time to reverse engineer this and put it all back together. Reassembly is just reversing what I took apart.

Now lets look at the bottom end.

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Looking at the bottom end of the column there is a retainer clip that needs to be removed. I used a small flat blade screwdriver.
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After removing the clip I used the same screw driver and a hammer to gently tap the bearing housing and bearing off the end of the shaft. In the end I completely destroyed these pieces but I had a replacement kit so no big deal.

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This kit is what you will need to replace the lower bearing. These Saginaw columns were used in just about every Chevy Buick product from the 60's through the 80's.

The reassembly of the lower bearing is the same as removal. But be careful. Your steering column is designed to collapse in an impact. Inside the steering column is plastic that melted into the intermediate shaft. At the injection point the plastic formed pins. In a collision these plastic pins collapse. I would be careful banging on the ends of the column as you might break the plastic pins. I'm not sure how that would affect the column but I don't think it would be to the positive.
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When shopping for a column I ran across this type of column, notice the lower part of the column has a lever on it. This is a lockout lever. It has a cable that runs to the Transmission and locks the Transmission in reverse when the key is removed and in park. Just an Fyi.
 
Best way to center the steering wheel, is by adjusting the drag-link from rotating the adjustment sleeve.
LG
 
Thanks for the pics brownrxmd

I just finished digging into my tilt column. For mine, the bearings were fine, but the 4 bolts down in the column had loosened, causing about an inch of up / down movement in the column.....

I didnt have the column pin removal tool either, but saw a couple of pics online, and fabbed one out of a bucket of old screws and a socket. It worked great, and I didnt have to spend $$ on one, and wait for a tool to be ordered. None of the local parts houses had it in stock.

Between your pics and a couple of youtube videos, it wasnt all that difficult. I specifically referred to your pics of how the bearings went back together. As you stated, the ball bearings come out very easily. I ended up with a floorboard full of them, and a couple stray ones on the garage floor. It was at that point I was glad I had just swept the garage floor, and vacuumed the sand and leaves off the floorboard before I started the project!! Thankfully I found all of them.. !!

While I was in there, I changed out the turn signal switch assembly. It had gotten to the point where it felt like it was going to break every time I signaled. Now both the steering and turn signal switch are unusually nice and tight.

Here are a few pics of the "tool" I made.

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The "tool" is nothing more than the appropriate thread bolt, with a nut and washer screwed up high toward the head of the bolt. For a spacer, I just used a socket that was bigger than the pin that was being pulled out. That way, as the pin was being pulled out of the column, it had somewhere to go.... into the socket.... Simple, and cheap......AND HANDIER than ordering a tool online..
 
Thanks for the pics brownrxmd

I just finished digging into my tilt column. For mine, the bearings were fine, but the 4 bolts down in the column had loosened, causing about an inch of up / down movement in the column.....

I didnt have the column pin removal tool either, but saw a couple of pics online, and fabbed one out of a bucket of old screws and a socket. It worked great, and I didnt have to spend $$ on one, and wait for a tool to be ordered. None of the local parts houses had it in stock.

Between your pics and a couple of youtube videos, it wasnt all that difficult. I specifically referred to your pics of how the bearings went back together. As you stated, the ball bearings come out very easily. I ended up with a floorboard full of them, and a couple stray ones on the garage floor. It was at that point I was glad I had just swept the garage floor, and vacuumed the sand and leaves off the floorboard before I started the project!! Thankfully I found all of them.. !!

While I was in there, I changed out the turn signal switch assembly. It had gotten to the point where it felt like it was going to break every time I signaled. Now both the steering and turn signal switch are unusually nice and tight.

Here are a few pics of the "tool" I made.

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The "tool" is nothing more than the appropriate thread bolt, with a nut and washer screwed up high toward the head of the bolt. For a spacer, I just used a socket that was bigger than the pin that was being pulled out. That way, as the pin was being pulled out of the column, it had somewhere to go.... into the socket.... Simple, and cheap......AND HANDIER than ordering a tool online..

What a clever tool! You don't recall the thread size do ya? I still have my old tilt column and someday I'll rebuild it too. That tool is ingenious. :chug:
 
What a clever tool! You don't recall the thread size do ya? I still have my old tilt column and someday I'll rebuild it too. That tool is ingenious. :chug:

I dont recall....
I dug through a pail of scrap nuts and bolts till I found one that worked.....

It is small, like 1/4 20 or something.... If you look at pics of the tool, the tip threads arent big at all... here is an example of one of those tools. I was kinda worried that the small threads were going to strip in the pin while pulling it, but it went fine...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/oes-25135?seid=srese1&gclid=CIX0nPGR6sICFaFr7AodwSIABw

I actually think mine might be better !! Not sure exactly why the actual correct tool is shaped the way it is. If I had access to one, I would have probably used it. But it was about 9pm, and no parts houses had one, not even for "borrow"
 
I know this is an old post, and I am new to the site, but why are all the pictures blurred out with a photobucket stamp on them?
 
I know this is an old post, and I am new to the site, but why are all the pictures blurred out with a photobucket stamp on them?

Because a year or 2 ago photo bucket took everyone who was using them, held there pictures hostage. Think I heard something like several hundred dollars to use the service
 
I never liked using a third party to post pictures on a forum. If I'm going to post pictures I upload them myself and they will stay.
 

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