power steering

[Lance1965cj5]

Hello, I'm new to the forum and needing some info plz)

In process of updating few things to my 65 tux park.

1. (Power Steering) What brand should I buy them and where?

2. (Dis Brake) What brand of conversion should I buy them and where?
also Do I need to remove the heating coil to mount the brake pump?
also debating if I should upgrade all four dis brake system or just the front...? What do you think.....?

Thanks everyone!

 

[tarry99]

Hello, I'm new to the forum and needing some info plz)

In process of updating few things to my 65 tux park.

1. (Power Steering) What brand should I buy them and where?

2. (Dis Brake) What brand of conversion should I buy them and where?
also Do I need to remove the heating coil to mount the brake pump?
also debating if I should upgrade all four dis brake system or just the front...? What do you think.....?

Thanks everyone!

Power steering...........Saginaw model 800 seems to be the gear box of choice. (It mounts forward of the front radiator cross member....Advanced Adapters has kits).........Found in most CJ's from the mid seventy's through the eighty's as a factory option..........Saginaw Power steering Pump.......Need to spend some time in the wrecking yards to find the brackets that will fit your V-6....same brackets on the Buick 350 mid to late seventies and eighties but you need to get the belt pulleys also.
Mounts on the drivers side off the 3 bolts on the front of the cylinder head.......If you have cast Iron front dump manifolds on the left side you need the high mount.......with headers the low or high mount will work. The EarlyCJ5 site has a ton of info on the process.

Brakes: If you still have the stock 9 inch drums get them off of there.......disc brake packages from folks like R&P 4 wheel in Portland work great for both the front and rear.......but at least get them in the front with 11" drums in the rear. Your brake system needs to be changed over to a more modern dual system. If you still have floor pedals R&P has a solution , if you want to go power brakes then swing pedals have to be installed and the heater on the firewall has to go.

 

[Lance1965cj5]

Power steering...........Saginaw model 800 seems to be the gear box of choice. (It mounts forward of the front radiator cross member....Advanced Adapters has kits).........Found in most CJ's from the mid seventy's through the eighty's as a factory option..........Saginaw Power steering Pump.......Need to spend some time in the wrecking yards to find the brackets that will fit your V-6....same brackets on the Buick 350 mid to late seventies and eighties but you need to get the belt pulleys also.
Mounts on the drivers side off the 3 bolts on the front of the cylinder head.......If you have cast Iron front dump manifolds on the left side you need the high mount.......with headers the low or high mount will work. The EarlyCJ5 site has a ton of info on the process.

Brakes: If you still have the stock 9 inch drums get them off of there.......disc brake packages from folks like R&P 4 wheel in Portland work great for both the front and rear.......but at least get them in the front with 11" drums in the rear. Your brake system needs to be changed over to a more modern dual system. If you still have floor pedals R&P has a solution , if you want to go power brakes then swing pedals have to be installed and the heater on the firewall has to go.

Wow~ Thank you so much... That's a very helpful info

 

[Lance1965cj5]

Going with R&P for my Dis Brake System Front & Rear with E-Brake with Dual Pump.... Very helpful person at the R&P and answered all my questions=)
for my power steering I'm going with Benchworks steering company at Arizona.
here's the pix

Thanks for the info Tarry99

 

[tarry99]

Going with R&P for my Dis Brake System Front & Rear with E-Brake with Dual Pump.... Very helpful person at the R&P and answered all my questions=)
for my power steering I'm going with Benchworks steering company at Arizona.
here's the pix

Thanks for the info Tarry99

Does Benchworks have the correct mounts for a Dauntless Buick 225 V6 ?

 

[Lance1965cj5]

Does Benchworks have the correct mounts for a Dauntless Buick 225 V6 ?

Don't believe they carry the mounting brackets for Dauntless Buick 225 V6 however its not hard to make the mount

 

[tarry99]

Don't believe they carry the mounting brackets for Dauntless Buick 225 V6 however its not hard to make the mount

Not hard? Maybe you have never seen that mount? Its two pieces.......I'll see if I can post a picture later of one.

 

[mstar]

here ya go. Using a early OEM buick pump instead of saginaw but otherwise same deal on the mount.I did make my own rear bracket to attach to header bolt. If someone has all the parts you need in the aftermarket that will be great news to a lot of Dauntless Buick 225 V6 V6 owners.mike

 

[tarry99]

Not hard? Maybe you have never seen that mount? Its two pieces.......I'll see if I can post a picture later of one.

1965CJ5
Here is a couple of pictures of the two brackets.........the pump mounts between the two.
Also a picture of the Saginaw " Ham Can" style pump on my 65 CJ5 . This pump was standard fare on the later Dauntless Buick 225 V6 motors through the 1980's. If you notice this style Is also pretty compact and can be pressured adjusted manually through the pressure port. This is the low mount variety that will not work with factory front dump cast iron exhaust manifolds but works fine with headers or rear dump factory manifolds.
I like it because it can be mounted low and is out of the way in an already tight engine compartment.

 

[Lance1965cj5]

1965CJ5
Here is a couple of pictures of the two brackets.........the pump mounts between the two.
Also a picture of the Saginaw " Ham Can" style pump on my 65 CJ5 . This pump was standard fare on the later Dauntless Buick 225 V6 motors through the 1980's. If you notice this style Is also pretty compact and can be pressured adjusted manually through the pressure port. This is the low mount variety that will not work with factory front dump cast iron exhaust manifolds but works fine with headers or rear dump factory manifolds.
I like it because it can be mounted low and is out of the way in an already tight engine compartment.

nice pix thank you....
I was thinking the same bolt on for Saginaw on my cj, as far as mounting bracket goes. I have some creative work to do)

 

[Lance1965cj5]

here ya go. Using a early OEM buick pump instead of saginaw but otherwise same deal on the mount.I did make my own rear bracket to attach to header bolt. If someone has all the parts you need in the aftermarket that will be great news to a lot of Dauntless Buick 225 V6 V6 owners.mike

Nice looking Cj) Thanks for the pix
Off the subject, before picture of my CJ5 under hood pix

Here's the picture of new under paint job...
New water pump, spark plugs, wire, gasket, belt, flushed all fluid. now im going to work on the power steering and dis brakes.) 37k rebuilt engine Dauntless Buick 225 V6

 

[mstar]

Lance, I like your idea for the bumper on grill support rod for the hood.
Those CJ hoods always want to rattle.You will have a nice rig when it's done with all plans you have for it. mike

 

[Lance1965cj5]

Lance, I like your idea for the bumper on grill support rod for the hood.
Those CJ hoods always want to rattle.You will have a nice rig when it's done with all plans you have for it. mike

Hello,

Didn't work out with Benchworks(((
Okay so what year, model of the car that I need to look for in the junk yard...?
Needing gear box, Pump, Pully, Bracket... Do I need to change the steering column as well...?
I've found 77" Skyhawk v6 would this fit on my jeep?

Thanks

 

[Lance1965cj5]

Hello,

Didn't work out with Benchworks(((
Okay so what year, model of the car that I need to look for in the junk yard...?
Needing gear box, Pump, Pully, Bracket... Do I need to change the steering column as well...?
I've found 77" Skyhawk v6 would this fit on my jeep?

Thanks

Hello, Mike
I've found year 77 Skyhawk v6 Do you think the pump and power steering gearbox would work? Do I need steering column as well? Thanks