Revolver Shackles

[Chevy350 CJ7]

Anyone used or have more information on the TeraFlex revolver shackle? Looks like a really nice piece, but wonder how well they work and if they'll be okay for highway use. Seems like they will help with flex, but main concern is driving down the highway...

 

[Jokenring]

The revovler shackles are garbage. They will get you more flex, but they have a tendancy to unload on you if you were going down a steep hill or up, depending where they are placed. If you really droop out they can flip backwards.

For the benefits of the flex you can attain, I don't think they out weigh the negatives of an unstable off-road ride.

On road your springs aren't moving too much so they pretty much lay flat.

 

[LongHorn]

the revovler shackles are garbage. They will get you more flex, but they have a tendancy to unload on you if you were going down a steep hill or up, depending where they are placed. If you really droop out they can flip backwards.

For the benefits of the flex you can attain, i don't think they out weigh the negatives of an unstable off-road ride.

On road your springs aren't moving too much so they pretty much lay flat.

 

[dalefan88]

i heard if you get on your brakes hard the rear ones unhinge and throw your weight balance off in a bad way in might cause a wreck.

 

[Chevy350 CJ7]

Ouch... That wouldn't be good if you find yourself needing to hit the brakes hard on the freeway...

 

[LongHorn]

i heard if you get on your brakes hard the rear ones unhinge and throw your weight balance off in a bad way in might cause a wreck.

If you run a "Shackle Reverse"setup like I do, that would be the same front & rear.

 

[IOPort51]

I could almost see these things working if the travel were Limited to 90 degrees.
But if you started to climb over them in a quick stop it would take a heck of a block to stop them.
Don’t mind me, just thinking out loud.

 

[BajaEdition]

I think we need to decide if it will be a DD or not.
After all we can acept a lot of stuff happening to our non DDs if we only use them in the dirt, but if it is not a trailer queen then all that dirt stuff affects the road ride.

remember Dirt
road performance performance
is here is here

and that is a lot of space in the middle. When we build we need to decide what we want, No Jeep will do it all. you are left or right or in between, you want both, buy another Jeep.

 

[Kane]

Hmm. Good info. I never thought about the unloading under hard braking. I thought they had a stop on them though so they won't flip in the wrong direction.

 

[LongHorn]

Hmm. Good info. I never thought about the unloading under hard braking. I thought they had a stop on them though so they won't flip in the wrong direction.

The center tube lays in a saddle block, but it does not lock.

 

[jeepnsam]

Here's a quick pic of Revolvers fully flexed on John Bull trail in Big Bear, CA

http://members.cox.net/cj4rox/jeep2.jpg

I purchased these from Made Rite (before Tera Flex bought them out many years ago) and I spent $$$$ for all four. Was going up a steep mud hill at Truckaven (TDS run) in SoCal when the rears kept unloading which means NO TRACTION!
Took em off and replaced with shackles back at camp and crawled up the hill the very next day without any problems.

CONCLUSION: When I sold my old Super Lift Springs, I paid the guy $20 to take the Revolvers because I didn't want to remove them from the leaf springs HAHAHAHAHA!! <--- true story

Sam

 

[IOPort51]

one more case of over complication.

Here's a quick pic of Revolvers fully flexed on John Bull trail in Big Bear, CA

http://members.cox.net/cj4rox/jeep2.jpg

I purchased these from Made Rite (before Tera Flex bought them out many years ago) and I spent $$$$ for all four. Was going up a steep mud hill at Truckaven (TDS run) in SoCal when the rears kept unloading which means NO TRACTION!
Took em off and replaced with shackles back at camp and crawled up the hill the very next day without any problems.

CONCLUSION: When I sold my old Super Lift Springs, I paid the guy $20 to take the Revolvers because I didn't want to remove them from the leaf springs HAHAHAHAHA!! <--- true story

Sam

 

[CJ]

Hello jeepnsam and welcome to our site! Great to have you here! That is a great shot of those shackles in action!

I ran the Teraflex version for a while and never had an unload problem - probably because my wheeling is mainly mud and sand -no rocks in FLA! I would surmise that the shackles work - but only for certain terrain...

 

[LongHorn]

Hello jeepnsam and welcome to our site! Great to have you here! That is a great shot of those shackles in action!

I ran the Teraflex version for a while and never had an unload problem - probably because my wheeling is mainly mud and sand -no rocks in FLA! I would surmise that the shackles work - but only for certain terrain...

Hell, the only hills are overpasses!!!!

 

[CJ]

Hell, the only hills are overpasses!!!!

Exactly! That pretty much proves out what I meant... It depends on the terrain!

 

[biohazard cj]

so then the one thing to ask is what is a good set up to use that will give you good flex but a stable safe ride? i wonder of there is a way we could modify the revolver so that all we have to do is like pull a pin out when we want the articulation and replace the pin for road way use like the sway bar quick connects like on yjs and tjs and also maybe weld a tab or gusset or something some how to be like a over extension bump stop so it fold back wrong way.

i know a friend of mine with a CJ8 and 383 stroker. and he had the revolver front and rear (y idk) but either way i will admit it was really cool to see the entire jeep lift up like 3 inchs when he hit the gas. but i would imagine that on a CJ7 or 5 with short wheel base that could definitly sacrafice braking performance.

 

[Jokenring]

so then the one thing to ask is what is a good set up to use that will give you good flex but a stable safe ride?QUOTE]

Links and coilovers with a Currie anti-Rock at each end. I'm just saying....


You could switch to a wider YJ style spring. Rubicon Express I have had good luck with, I heard Alcan makes some good ones too. And then use a sway bar. Mine is a little tippy in the corners on the roads, but I don't drive on asphalt much so I really don't mind. It wasn't worth the extra cost to me to run a sway bar.

 

[LongHorn]

so then the one thing to ask is what is a good set up to use that will give you good flex but a stable safe ride? i wonder of there is a way we could modify the revolver so that all we have to do is like pull a pin out when we want the articulation and replace the pin for road way use like the sway bar quick connects like on yjs and tjs and also maybe weld a tab or gusset or something some how to be like a over extension bump stop so it fold back wrong way.

i know a friend of mine with a CJ8 and 383 stroker. and he had the revolver front and rear (y idk) but either way i will admit it was really cool to see the entire jeep lift up like 3 inchs when he hit the gas. but i would imagine that on a CJ7 or 5 with short wheel base that could definitly sacrafice braking performance.

Look at my pictures & see if that's enough flex.
I'm running a shackle reversed, SOA, with 4" lift wrangler springs & no sway bars.
It drives well enough to take my hand off the wheel at highway speeds.
I've had it over 100mph, (for testing purposes only) " do not try this at home".

 

[jeepnsam]

I drove the CJ 30 miles round trip to work at least once a week and the ride is better with the Revolvers. My "guess" is the Revolvers allow some free play in the suspension unlike normal fixed shackles which forces the springs to soak up the flex aka rougher ride.

I also flat towed behind a Dodge Durango and then F150 SCREW with no problems at all.