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There's a local selling a really clean 65 cj Tuxedo Park . I'm going to try to get some pix but he wants $7,500 firm. It looks like it has been restored in some way. I'm going to get more info but wanted some opinions on if a really clean (possibly restored) 65 Tuxedo Park at $7,500 was a good price. Thanks in advance
One other thing: his ad said "like all jeeps it drips a little". If it drips it seems like that's something that could be fixed easy enough. If jeeps usually leak, what is the most likely culprit of the leak?
What is a more acceptable price? Keep in mind I am NOT mechanically inclined so getting an "average" one that needs work is out of the question. I looked on a site that sold old CJ's and it seemed like a lot were $7,000+ for "above average" to "almost perfect". Thanks!!
NOT mechanically inclined and you want a 45 year old Jeep?
Hmmm, How to put this tactfully? Perhaps you need to think this through a bit more? If you can't work on it the chances that you will be able to find someone that can are quite slim and it will require work even if it is "almost perfect". Perhaps you could think more on the lines of something built in this millennium?
Please believe me when I say I am not trying to be negative about this. I just hate to think you will end up hating this vehicle because it requires so much time , money and attention.
What is a more acceptable price? Keep in mind I am NOT mechanically inclined so getting an "average" one that needs work is out of the question. I looked on a site that sold old CJ's and it seemed like a lot were $7,000+ for "above average" to "almost perfect". Thanks!!
Mine does not drip. Chances are if were easy to fix the owner would have done so. $7500 is quite a bit and would need to be very nice and more or less exactly what you want, the Tuxedo Park part does not add any value unless it were of collector quality and perfect.
Is this Jeep in Aspen? I ask because every thing up there costs more then if you get it some where else. I think you should see what $7500 will get you on the front range.
67 cj5,225 Dauntless, D30,chrome molies, detroit, D44, full floating detroit, custom steering, disc all the way around,2 inch lift on 31s, armored up
70 cj6 4 inch lift
67 cj5,225 Dauntless, D30,chrome molies, detroit, D44, full floating detroit, custom steering, disc all the way around,2 inch lift on 31s, armored up
70 cj6 4 inch lift
Gotta second this. Not only will there be more maintenance required because it is a 45 yr old jeep but vehicles from that era just required more maintenance even when new. Can you set points gap & dwell, for example? Do you have much experience driving with Ross steering and smallish 4-wheel drum brakes? Unless you intend to park it and look at it a 45 yr old vehicle like that is often a time and money pit, especially when paying someone else to fix them. These are not "turn the key and change the oil/filter" to get AMC 150 ,000 miles out of them like most any car today will do. Not to be disrespectful but the fact that you list your current vehicle as just a " Denali" without even specifying whether is is a pick-up, Yukon, Yukon XL (Suburban), or Acadia, or even whether it is 2wd/4wd might indicate that letting people know you paid for the expensive Denali package is more important than the vehicle or that you think that Denali is a model of vehicle instead of an option available on many vehicles. Neither is the right criteria for choosing a fairly rare jeep model and all of the inherent issues with such a vintage vehicle.
67 cj5,225 Dauntless, D30,chrome molies, detroit, D44, full floating detroit, custom steering, disc all the way around,2 inch lift on 31s, armored up
70 cj6 4 inch lift
Gotta second this. Not only will there be more maintenance required because it is a 45 yr old jeep but vehicles from that era just required more maintenance even when new. Can you set points gap & dwell, for example? Do you have much experience driving with Ross steering and smallish 4-wheel drum brakes? Unless you intend to park it and look at it a 45 yr old vehicle like that is often a time and money pit, especially when paying someone else to fix them. These are not "turn the key and change the oil/filter" to get AMC 150 ,000 miles out of them like most any car today will do. Not to be disrespectful but the fact that you list your current vehicle as just a " Denali" without even specifying whether is is a pick-up, Yukon, Yukon XL (Suburban), or Acadia, or even whether it is 2wd/4wd might indicate that letting people know you paid for the expensive Denali package is more important than the vehicle or that you think that Denali is a model of vehicle instead of an option available on many vehicles. Neither is the right criteria for choosing a fairly rare jeep model and all of the inherent issues with such a vintage vehicle.
you know
I love the pre 72 jeeps
have two and have owned 5
I have to admit
they are not for anyone who is not a pretty good mechanic
you have to know how to work on them as most newer mechanocs can not as they are antiques
you also have to know how to "retro mod stuff" and that means take modern stuff and get it to work with antique stuff.
It takes a lot of off the cuff engineering
my last project, my 67 I got 4 years ago has over 10 grand into the driveline and another 3 or 4 into the rest and U hav not even started on the body yet.
I have to admit, I have rebuilt the rear axle, put in a Dana 30 in the front, redesigned the steering and put in a modern 4 wheel disc brake system, swapped out the tranny to a better one and rebuilt the t case. new driveshafts and a lift. I have redone the seats and that is all just to get it so I could trust it ontrail
If you do not love working on a Antique and know how to McGuiver a repair 15 miles from nowhere, then leave the old Iron alone.
With out the knowledge to get back home with a roll of tie wire and a pocket knife, a 65 tux is a major liability as every time you start it you will need to be ready to fix something.
I personally would buy another 65 Tux in a half a nano second. I am looking for a 58 CJ5 right now, why? I want a jeep as old as I am.
So, those of us that are inclined to buy "the dream" jeep have rose colored glasses. (or a high degree of need to look cool - an old jeep does that to even the most balanced of persons).
I am a rebuilder from way back, a fair mechanic but choose to let others complete things I no longer want to do, like brakes and anything that involves oil,grease, or crud dropping in my face.
I did buy a 66 CJ 6A TPM4 " nearly stock for 5500, a decent price but on the high end I thought. Super clean for a vintage vehicle, what I consider rust free.
Nearly stock my backside, yet all of the small parts seem to be here. 32000 miles documented. It would seem EVERY jeep owner did something to their rig at some point.
Was told I could drive it home .....SO WRONG. 2k to get it home.
1500 going front to back to make sure it was safe and driveable.
It runs very well, NOW, and has so little rust I still think it was an OK deal. My bet is that others here would not agree.
Now in dry storage to seal the body against rust - while trying to figure out what I really had and buying parts specific for it....another 7-800 bucks.
It has not seen another road mile since.
What I have, according to my wife of 32 years, is a 46 yr old hobby. It is not the daily driver I hoped it would be, YET..... but I am tenatious, OK stubborn, .....so yes, I will continue to invest, finish this bad boy and make it what I want.
Point here is you gotta wanna - regardless of the cost - note BajaEdition investment numbers - betting he did Most, if not all, of the work himself.
Now all that said, I like the thought of owning a TPM4.
The folks here @ JeepCJ.com have added nothing but encouragement, hours of thoughtful response, and a plethora of info that has been enlightening and oh so correct. Listen to them and then go buy what you want.
When I took her(wife) out for a sunnyday top off ride last fall, said she hasn't seen me smile like that since the kids were born.
It really is all about perspective and how deep your pockets are..... and, of course, the smiles, waves, people stopping you and asking what it is and what I have done to it, and saving a part of history.
PS (working on it is both rewarding & fun)
I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
I will respectfully disagree with those telling you to take a pass.
I think this is a fair starting place for the bargining to begin. If you aren't much of a mechanic, I think you can get by with an old Jeep as long as it is in great shape to start, and this one appears to fit that bill.
Although I agree with much of what is said here about needing to be a semi mechanic, (I have lots of stories of fixing my Jeep on the fly), if you have common sence, start with a VERY good Jeep, and have some money to spend, I don't see why you can't make the jump and learn as you go (off road lightly with buddies and keep the cell phone with you). Nobody here was born knowing how to fix their jeep with duct tape and the draw string from their swimsuit (as I did not long ago when my clutch linkage broke).
Good luck, welcome to the wonderful world of old Jeeps.
.. my 74 
