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I have a 69 CJ5 with Buick odd fire v6 engine, and am looking for a radiator fan shroud for it. The radiator is 17" wide 3 core which is typical for the model and application. I haven't been able to find one on any of the typical sites of suppliers such as Morris 4x4, Kaiser Willys, Mid West Jeep Willys Parts, 4 Wheel Parts, Walcks. I have put out an inquiry on a couple of used parts sites here in Arizona but so far have had no replies. Other option is to try and build one but will wait on that until I am sure I can't find one for a fair price. It isn't critical since I haven't had any overheating problems, but it would be nice for those hot AZ summer days and times when am sitting or barely moving.
Doug, hello from Orygun. I bought a fan shroud for my '69 from a internet site called www.partsdude4x4.net they have a lot of hard to find items that cross over to cj models as they specialize in jeepster parts.Pic of the shroud I got from them .The other option of course is a electric fan mounted against rear of radiator.Good luck to you, Mike
1968 CJ5: all stock (V6/T86/D18/D27/D44) except 4bbl & headers and rear aux tank, HD rear 44 housing, Warn OD, Belleview winch, Whitco top (New Blue)
1968 CJ5: mostly stock (V6/T90/D18/D27/D44), unknown make 3" lift springs, 11" Bendix brakes, Warn OD, unknown electric winch, Kayline tire/jerry can carrier, Bestop Super Top (Old Blue)
1947 2A and 49 3A that may or may not get built, and several FC/wagon derelicts
Those are made of some kind of rather funky plastic and about all it takes to break the stock ones is to just look at it. Finding a used one is likely going to be a long search. Back in my fading memory, I seem to recall seeing a repop fiberglass version but have no idea where.
It wouldn't be too difficult to fabricate one. It's easy to use a cardboard mock-up to get the fan position/mounting and then just have someone bend it up. I would not be going to an electric fan for lack of a shroud and even with the electrics, if you actually want them to work, you still need good shrouding. I'm still a believer that you can move a lot more air with a good mechanical fan. It may cost you a little mileage/power, but I think it's worth it.
So are you saying that the fan shroud I have on my vehicle is no good. Really?? Seems more then strong enough and not flimsy at all. Maybe your just having a bad day.I also had great success repairing a fiber original on my '67 with some glass matt and resin. mike s.
1968 CJ5: all stock (V6/T86/D18/D27/D44) except 4bbl & headers and rear aux tank, HD rear 44 housing, Warn OD, Belleview winch, Whitco top (New Blue)
1968 CJ5: mostly stock (V6/T90/D18/D27/D44), unknown make 3" lift springs, 11" Bendix brakes, Warn OD, unknown electric winch, Kayline tire/jerry can carrier, Bestop Super Top (Old Blue)
1947 2A and 49 3A that may or may not get built, and several FC/wagon derelicts
So are you saying that the fan shroud I have on my vehicle is no good. Really?? Seems more then strong enough and not flimsy at all. Maybe your just having a bad day.I also had great success repairing a fiber original on my '67 with some glass matt and resin. mike s.
What I'm saying is that if you actually use the Jeep for a Jeep, they ALWAYS break. Since you're up on repairs I have to assume you didn't get an exception to that. My take is they don't have enough flex to match the rest of a more or less stock CJ5 . While that doesn't make them un-usable, it is going to make finding one from a salvage yard a bit problematic. FYI, my 68 also still has the stock shroud-also repaired of course.
What one does for this depends on what the purpose of the Jeep is put to. If it's going to be a stock restoration it may be worth the trouble to find the correct replacement. If it's a modified trail Jeep, you may as well build one and you can build one that's more effective than the stock version.
Duffer ,I am more than familiar with you from the ecj5 site.Don't judge
others because they choose to restore a well used jeep that has served me very well over the years.mike
Doug, hello from Orygun. I bought a fan shroud for my '69 from a internet site called www.partsdude4x4.net they have a lot of hard to find items that cross over to cj models as they specialize in jeepster parts.Pic of the shroud I got from them .The other option of course is a electric fan mounted against rear of radiator.Good luck to you, Mike
Mike, thanks for the information. I looked up the site and looks like they have the shroud. By the way what brand spark plug wires are those on your odd fire? I am looking to get a good set. I recently converted my distributor to PerTronix Ignitor Solid-State Ignition System and would like to get a good set of wires that have good positive connection/boots to the plugs. The ones in your photo look to be what I may be looking for.
SInce we are on the subject of fan shrouds. Are they needed? What are the benefits and cons? I do not have one on mine but was thinking about posting a question about them to see if I need one.
SInce we are on the subject of fan shrouds. Are they needed? What are the benefits and cons? I do not have one on mine but was thinking about posting a question about them to see if I need one.
I was just reading a post on my local club forum saying that the shroud forced the air flow to cover the entire radiator area rather than just where the circle of the fan is. That makes sense to me and makes me think that I won't be removing mine.
Doug, thanks for the ?.I apologize for the drama.I get a little sensitive
about things. The wires are TAYLOR they come in many colors and boot angles.They also come with ends for reg cap or HEI.I buy the universal set and cut to length.Just need a pair of spark plug wire pliers.
I buy them from Summit but there available most anywhere.mike
Doug, thanks for the ?.I apologize for the drama.I get a little sensitive
about things. The wires are TAYLOR they come in many colors and boot angles.They also come with ends for reg cap or HEI.I buy the universal set and cut to length.Just need a pair of spark plug wire pliers.
I buy them from Summit but there available most anywhere.mike
Mike,
Thanks, I looked on Summit site. What style Taylor Wires? Street Thunder, Spiro Pro, 409 Race, Thunder Volt, or Fire Power. The main thing I am looking for is a good connection at the plugs. I have Hedmann Elite Headers on mine and currently have heat protection socks over the plugs and connections and have had the connection come loose a couple of times. Was looking at a set of Davis Unified Ignition Live Wires that are made to fit the Odd Fire V6 (From Summit also)but am a little reluctant to spend $89 on them. They have heat protection wrap built into the wires (total of 10mm+ wire diam), but I don't think I really need that since I have the socks as long as I can get something with a good positive connection to the plugs. My distributor isn't HEI as I mentioned earlier I installed PerTronix solid state system in place of condenser and points in my stock Delco distributor, but haven't had a problem with connections there, just need to be sure and get correct ones with new set of wires. The weak point in most of the typical wires available out there is the connection to the plugs from my perspective. According to the description on the Summit site for the Taylor wires it seems they claim they all have double locking vibration proof connections?????
Doug, sorry about that.It is the spiro-pro line for street use.I buy the 8 cyl. universal version because there about the same price and it gives me a couple spares in case of a screw up. mike
It seems many get by without a fan shroud. Over the years I've had some issues with air flow for radiators and their efficiency.
My first go was with my '66 Chev Malibu,
with a transplanted 350. Running without a shroud was fine in Oregon, but while in the service I got stationed in southern California, she began running hot. Being a clueless kid I was finally enlightened by a fellow rodder and soon enough I had a stock shroud and she kept her cool, even at MCLB Barstow.
Next go 'round with overheating was in a '66 Ford Econoline,
after upgrading the motor with a 240 out of a later Maverick she began running hot, even here in Oregon, and with the doghouse right next to the driver in these old Econolines, it became downright unbearable. I went with an oversized radiator, then a new water pump and hoses but the overheat continued. Later I was browsing in a wrecking yard up in Portland and I noticed a '65 that had a belly pan that mine didn't. So I scabbed it in and it turned out that the gaping mouth without the pan would rush the cooling air under the body, rather than up to the radiator.
Then I got 'Black Betty' a couple of years ago. She came fromt he P.O. with only an electric pusher fan and no shroud... and she ran warm in the winters and hot in the summers. First thing I did was reverse the fan and made it a puller but results were only marginal. Next, I found an O.E. shroud but the hole was too large for that electric fan to be effective.
Finally last year after reading several forum posts and asking too many questions I went with the Ford Countour/Merc Mystique fan swap and with the way I have it wired it finally helped me control the summer overheats while still allowing the heater to work in the winter.
