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My jeep buying experience

My jeep buying experience
Funny thing about this person is he is the one who set the price all I did was accept his offer. The auction was stalled at 4,095 with 4 days remaining when he made the offer. Of course I will take his 6000 dollar offer. As far as the three rust spots they were noted in the auction as rust through and in fact only one was rust through the other 2 were surface rust. Then with no attempt to communicate as a man he goes and files dispute with Paypal which he lost by the way. He never asked any questions other that how much rust was in Windshield frame and would I take 6000. So for me decieving him thats a bald face lie, he decieved himself thinking he was gonna get a perfect which it was stated was not perfect Jeep CJ7 for 6000. Doesn't happen in the real world. Then sent me emails quote"My first cousin is the former assistant Attorney General and lead the consumer
protection division. He has a lot experience in this type of issue. After that
he was the state Treasurer of the state of Mississippi. He is now a practicing
lawyer in New York. I have been in discussion with him about pursuing this in
the state of Virgina. Furthermore, I wonder about your compliance to state and
federal tax laws and would feel obligated to bring this to the attention of the
parties involved."
This was cut and pasted directly from his email.

So just as anyone in here would do I took his offer of 6000 now its not what he was expecting and he needs to put on his big boy pants and enjoy the Jeep just as my son did, which oh by the way was my 18yr old sons CJ. We are a Jeep family and members of Jeepforum.
And oh by the way folks he is just using your website to try to slander me also per his email"BTW, I am posting everywhere I have an opportunity on the net using your ebay
name and a warning to all."
So to encourage such a thread is just demoralizing a great site such as JeepCJ.com

Too funny. The guy would not answer my calls or emails until I used strong language. He hid like a child under the bed in a thunderstorm.

In the paypal dispute they said they would take the jeep back if I paid return shipping. I arranged to have it shipped back and they would not have it. They knew it was not running and didn't want it back.

I will post some pictures later.
 
Also as a second note Jeep was tuned before he bought it. Also I encouraged him to go have it checked out since compression test was done 6 months prior to sale which were 125,125,140,135 which are all dry numbers, so as far as Jeep smoking because it needs new engine absolutely not. My first guess would be to check PCV valve to make sure you have it hooked up properly. Or maybe as I stated to you when you said it didnt run put the rebuilt Carter back on it and have it set with a vac gauge which it should be set at about 20. It might be hard to find a mechanic that does old school work but they are out there. And as far as the relay for choke being missing it is no longer needed after being changed to a manual choke.

So a PCV valve causes blue smoke and oil pressure below 20? You really think you can talk your way out of anything.
 
A word of caution to all. I will close this thread and issue infractions if this thread turns into a pissing match.

Stick to facts and all will be well. Remember, there are always "three" sides to every story.
 
To answer your question yes it will. If your pcv is pulling oil into the carb which is then being sprayed into the cylinder with the gas when the plug ignites in the cylinder which the oil was just placed in by the carb it will infact burn that oil and wow you will have blue smoke. Try starting the Jeep with the pcv valve removed from the valve cover and let it run for a min or so not much longer. Do this a few times since there can be an oil buildup in the exhaust. Dont run it long since the pcv has a function which is to relieve bottom end pressure. Yes it will make your oil pressure low if your pcv valve isnt doing its job because pressure is building up in the crankcase. P=positive C=crankcase V=ventilation. So yes please try that before again <-BAD WORD->-U-ME ing anything. With the compression readings the smoke is not passing by the rings. Just trying to help you Jim nobody's out to get you. And to the moderator I want to apologize, but just thought that everyone should know there is more than one side to a story. :)
 
~~~ And to the moderator I want to apologize, but just thought that everyone should know there is more than one side to a story. :)
:) Site owner... :chug:

No apologies necessary, just wanted to nip any inappropriate (if any were to start) before it got there. Rational posts and debates are welcome and encouraged. :notworthy:
 
Welcome to the site first of all. :) Its easier for all people involved if you use the same username here as you did on jeepforum.com like you mentioned. That way people dont get confused. And you edited out your compliment to this site. tisk tisk.

Thanx
Pete
To answer your question yes it will. If your pcv is pulling oil into the carb which is then being sprayed into the cylinder with the gas when the plug ignites in the cylinder which the oil was just placed in by the carb it will infact burn that oil and wow you will have blue smoke. Try starting the Jeep with the pcv valve removed from the valve cover and let it run for a min or so not much longer. Do this a few times since there can be an oil buildup in the exhaust. Dont run it long since the pcv has a function which is to relieve bottom end pressure. Yes it will make your oil pressure low if your pcv valve isnt doing its job because pressure is building up in the crankcase. P=positive C=crankcase V=ventilation. So yes please try that before again <-BAD WORD->-U-ME ing anything. With the compression readings the smoke is not passing by the rings. Just trying to help you Jim nobody's out to get you. And to the moderator I want to apologize, but just thought that everyone should know there is more than one side to a story. :)
 
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Did you or did you not avoid all my calls and emails where you could have worked through the issues with me and only answered when I sent a letter laced with things I planned to do if you didn't respond?

Have you ever addressed the issues I have repeatedly brought up that I thought were unidentified problems or problems that exceeded your description of the problem?

Did you or did you not say in your paypal dispute answer that you would be glad to take the jeep back if I would pay return shipping AND I made that very offer which you refused??? That would have been $1600 in shipping out of my pocket just to keep from being stuck with something that was not as you described. That speaks volumes about the condition I perceived the jeep to be in when I received it.

Here are the pictures of the 'three small rust spots.'
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No rust in the floorboard???
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Unmentioned dents

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Ever see an air cleaner like that after a 'tune up' It was also squealing like crazy because the alternator locking bolt at the top had the head sheared off. Is that part of a 'get it ready for the new buyer' courtesy plan?
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PCV?

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Nothing about the fit of the hard top or missing hardware.

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This is a fourth rust spot and actually more like what I would call small

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To answer your question yes it will. If your pcv is pulling oil into the carb which is then being sprayed into the cylinder with the gas when the plug ignites in the cylinder which the oil was just placed in by the carb it will infact burn that oil and wow you will have blue smoke. Try starting the Jeep with the pcv valve removed from the valve cover and let it run for a min or so not much longer. Do this a few times since there can be an oil buildup in the exhaust. Dont run it long since the pcv has a function which is to relieve bottom end pressure. Yes it will make your oil pressure low if your pcv valve isnt doing its job because pressure is building up in the crankcase. P=positive C=crankcase V=ventilation. So yes please try that before again <-BAD WORD->-U-ME ing anything. With the compression readings the smoke is not passing by the rings. Just trying to help you Jim nobody's out to get you. And to the moderator I want to apologize, but just thought that everyone should know there is more than one side to a story. :)

This is correct. Buyer doesn't sound too mechanically inclined... Sounds like he thinks he is though..
 
Seams that we2arebeckken and xxxJeepFan have the exact same IP (same computer). You are banned. I said I wasn't going to take any :dung: on this thread and I meant it!

Do you think I was born yesterday? I asked for facts and you try and pull this junk.

BTW - we2arebeckken - if you would like to use the Contact Us link and explain why two accounts were registered using the same PC I would entertain unbanning you, as long as there is a reasonable explanation.

Bold text added on 3/25/11 @ 7:27 am
 
Honestly duwhat, and I'm not taking sides, but comparatively speaking those are actually pretty small rust spots. Carry on

DROOOID2
I'm thinking those are pretty small spots (maybe not). Can you give us a picture that is not so close up so we can see them relative to other parts of the body?

Thanks,
 
I think the moral of this story is...never buy a jeep without checking it out in person.
 
Seams that we2arebeckken and xxxJeepFan have the exact same IP. You are banned. I said I wasn't going to take any :dung: on this thread and I meant it!

Do you think I was born yesterday? I asked for facts and you try and pull this junk.

I was hoping he would finally answer my questions.

I was gonna cry 'sock puppet'

:chug:
 
I'm thinking those are pretty small spots (maybe not). Can you give us a picture that is not so close up so we can see them relative to other parts of the body?

Thanks,

The biggest issue I had was just how badly it ran when I got it, the dents that weren't mentioned and ultimately the motor condition after I replaced the carb. The rust places are bigger than "small" since I thought small was about the size of a half dollar and never imagined from the eBay pictures that one was all the way through.

Compound that with the guy dodging me and telling me to 'put my big boy pants on' and I got pretty tilted about the whole thing.

I have an excellent body man.

Thanks for letting it play out. I needed that. Glad to be part of this group
 
I think the moral of this story is...never buy a jeep without checking it out in person.

I have said all along, I deserve a big FAIL for letting myself get married to the jeep at first sight because it looked just like my first one. Guilty as charged bro.
 
Looks like most CJs that age that got little care.

Most older CJs require a rich or hands-on owner. I belong to the later.

Look at it this way - you have a classic and Jeep repair learning opportunity that many just wish they could.

Oh CJ, thanks for slamming the door on the BS that was going on.
 
Well I understand why youd be bent. So now you overspent a bit for your Cj but Ya know what? You own one. :) Id suggest starting some threads about the problems you need help with and make that Cj into what you want. The seller has been exposed as the dishonest type in just a few posts. Game , set , match. Time to move on and whip that Cj into shape. ;)
The biggest issue I had was just how badly it ran when I got it, the dents that weren't mentioned and ultimately the motor condition after I replaced the carb. The rust places are bigger than "small" since I thought small was about the size of a half dollar and never imagined from the eBay pictures that one was all the way through.

Compound that with the guy dodging me and telling me to 'put my big boy pants on' and I got pretty tilted about the whole thing.

I have an excellent body man.

Thanks for letting it play out. I needed that. Glad to be part of this group
 
Most of use here started with a jeep that was worse than what you bought. So lets get yours running and driving good so you can enjoy it.:chug:
 
Most of use here started with a jeep that was worse than what you bought. So lets get yours running and driving good so you can enjoy it.:chug:
Full steam ahead. I am starting to remove the body this weekend and get it down to my body man in a couple weeks. I will be asking questions as I go. Thanks to everyone for your support.
 
Full steam ahead. I am starting to remove the body this weekend and get it down to my body man in a couple weeks. I will be asking questions as I go. Thanks to everyone for your support.

I think you are puttin the mule in front of the cart!Need to get it running and driving good first then worry about the body and cosmetics.
Good luck
 

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