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I am about to glue the rear view to the new windshield . This is a bit OCD but I am wondering if there is some standard distance down from the inside of the glass gasket. If a few of you guys happen to be in the vicinity of a CJ with a measuring device. I would love to be able to compile an average measurement. :cool:

The few of us with front roll cage additions that have a cross tube near the windshield, Are you experiencing any conflict with the mirror?:mad:
 
Silly question, but why not mount it to the roll bar?

Did you go with auto dim, temp and compass? ;)
 
the roll bar isn't there just yet but that is an idea , I guess.

I had not even thought about a fancy mirror like that. My truck has one of those and it a bit silly even by my standards. I can generally tell direction as well as the compass, knowing the temperature in the CJ would more than likely just depress me and that auto dim thing is a real distraction. When a following car is in just the right position the headlights seem to flash on and off.

Silly question, but why not mount it to the roll bar?

Did you go with auto dim, temp and compass? ;)
 
I centered mine to the footman, held the mirror foot to the top of frame, attached the glue on piece directly below that. Use tape to mark wher tou need it.

Remember, it needs to slide down onto the bracket.

I was toying with the idea of fabbing a bracket to mount into the footman loop holes. I've seen others rigs with this mod. much better visibility.

Mine is 1 1/4 from top. Different mirrors that could have ended up in yours may require a different minimum spacing from the frame. I have a day/night toggle GM mirror. Not sure if it's the same as a Jeep one.
 
I'm really bad on cloudy knowing which way north is.

Gotta have some fun. You're a good sport! :D. :chug:
 
It should 3" from top of mirror knob to the gasket. And be sure to use the right stuff to glue the knob to the glass. Super glue is a nono.
 
Three inches? from the top? That's seems too low, in practice. I don't dispute that as fact, though.

Judging by the other mirrors placement, and wiper park position. AMC didn't want the driver to be able to see well.

I'm 5'9'' and three inches from the gasket is level with my eyes. Mine is placed higher for this reason. Maybe my YJ seats and brackets are the reason?
 
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If I really get confused I always have the compass in the but of my Rambo knife.:D


I'm really bad on cloudy knowing which way north is.

Gotta have some fun. You're a good sport! :D. :chug:
 
So what height did you mount the mirror, IOport?
 
I have not mounted it yet. To be honest, I am still thinking about the mirror with the compass in it.:D


So what height did you mount the mirror, IOport?
 
My mirror mount is cemented at 4 inches from the top seal of the windshield.
 
FYI GM mirrors require a separate module installed for the temperature, if you get a temp/compass unit from the boneyard.

A few Chevy truck forums have all the info you could want on this subject. Map lights are good, too. Put one in my 91 Step-side some years ago. the windshield mount ones have standard mount as the Jeep.

You're gonna snake the wires through the w/shield frame, right?
 
Resurrecting this old thread due to an ongoing issue I have had. Ever since getting my current rig about 4 years ago, I have dealt with the review mirror falling off a few times. When I first got it, the mirror was glued to the windshield and the glue gave way and it fell off in only a few weeks. I got some of the glue at the local auto parts store and reattached it. After about a year, it fell off again. I got a different brand/type of glue, made for mirror mounting or course, and after about 6 months, it fell off again. I finally resorted to some Gorilla gel super glue and that held for about a year. Well, it fell off again yesterday. So I finally decided I'm tired of gluing it to the windshield and wanted to mount it to the windshield frame instead. Now I do have a roll bar or windshield hoop that sits right behind the windshield frame, but I changed my mirror a while back for one from the scrap yard that has map lights in it and I ran the wiring inside the windshield frame to power it. (Here's a link to that post: Mirror with map lights) I do fold the windshield down from time to time and didn't want the mirror mounted to the roll bar and the wiring inside the windshield frame, because I would have to unplug the wiring connector every time I wanted to fold down the windshield. So the mirror needs to stay connected to the windshield frame where the wiring is and go with the windshield when it gets folded down.

So the plan was to use the existing mounting "button" (the metal piece you normally glue to the glass) and mount that to the underside of the windshield frame with some screws and then put the mirror onto the button like normal. Here's the mirror and the metal piece you glue to the glass to mount it. Notice the two buttons on the bottom of the mirror itself that are used to turn on the map lights. And here also is the mounting location, next to where the wiring comes out of the windshield frame (centered just under the frame where the footman loop is on the vertical "face" of the frame). Of course the footman loop is used for the strap on the safari top.

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So I drilled two holes into the metal mounting piece, and countersunk them so the screw heads would be flush, allowing the mirror to slide onto the mount once in place. I wanted two holes rather than just one so that it would never swivel or move while adjusting the mirror later. I then also drilled two holes into the underside of the windshield frame to mount it. So here you can see the piece mounted to the underside of the windshield frame right next to the wiring that comes out to power the mirror. You can also the footman loop with my safari top tensioning strap as well as the roll bar windshield hoop section.

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Next was to simply mount the mirror onto the metal mount like normal, using the set screw in the mirror to tighten it all up. All I had to do was rotate the mount on the mirror 180 degrees to put it on the mount in this new location/orientation as opposed to how it mounted before when glued to the glass. Then plug the wires back in and presto - a solidly mounted mirror that no longer relies on glue to keep it on the glass. And yes, I can still fold down the windshield with the mirror attached like this as it just clears the roll bar section enough to do so.

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Nice solution.
Here is the mounting location of the rear view mirror in the 1984-1986 CJ7 Service Manual:

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Nice solution.
Here is the mounting location of the rear view mirror in the 1984-1986 CJ7 Service Manual:

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I put new glass in my windshield and chose not to follow this guideline. I felt it put the mirror right where I look to see cars on the right, when I'm at an intersection. In other words, it blocks the view over there. I put it higher, but still on the glass.

I suppose they want it that low so you can see out the back with a hard top? I don't have a hard top, so I'm not sure... but the Bestop soft top that I have has a plenty tall window in the rear.
 
Some nuckel head 35 years ago broke mine. Went and got 1 out of a junk yard somewhat similar . I glued the small metal plate 2 inches from the top of the window. I use that to look directly behind me and tilted to right so I can look to the right behind me on the right side. I don’t like the right side mirror position on a CJ. So I only have the 2 mirrors on mine. Two works for me.
 
I swear there is no glue made today to reliably hold a mirror to the windshield regardless of prep, I went through dozens. I eventually used mirror from a 60's impala for my truck, similar to OP's solution.
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I swear there is no glue made today to reliably hold a mirror to the windshield regardless of prep, I went through dozens. I eventually used mirror from a 60's impala for my truck, similar to OP's solution.
I actually searched for an older mirror like that (with a mount designed to bolt to the windshield frame) but I wanted the map lights, and those are only available in newer (relative term) mirrors. I didn't care about even newer ones with a compass or temp reading (I know the temp outside 'cause the top and doors are usually off) but really wanted the lights.
 
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I put new glass in my windshield and chose not to follow this guideline. I felt it put the mirror right where I look to see cars on the right, when I'm at an intersection. In other words, it blocks the view over there. I put it higher, but still on the glass.

I suppose they want it that low so you can see out the back with a hard top? I don't have a hard top, so I'm not sure... but the Bestop soft top that I have has a plenty tall window in the rear.
Just answering the original question.
 

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