Where to buy/ have made PS hose for 4.3 v6 conversion to cj7 pump?

[76cj7chick]

Hello, I'm swapping in A 4.3 v6 engine and power steering reservoir in my 76 CJ7 Jeep that has the saginaw power steering but was told that it will require a new specially made power steering line that will go into the power steering on my vehicle to the reservoir on the engine.

Could someone lead me in the right direction on where to get this modified or if they make these hoses aftermarket and ready to install???

Thanks bunches! Hope to hear from you all soon!

 

[Torxhead]

My first guess would be a local N.A.P.A. or industrial supply.

 

[mriplaybass]

What I did on our 79 CJ7 was to buy the OEM hose. This hose fit the pump, but not the gear box. After trying to find all kinds of adapters with no success, I just went to a local auto parts store and found that a generic brake line with the same diameter hose fit the gear box perfectly.I cut the end off the OEM hose on the gear box end, and cut the nut off the generic brake line. Put the nut on the OEM hose, and flared the tube. Instant custom hose!

 

[76cj7chick]

Hey guys, Thanks for your suggestions!!!!

Im really Hoping for a simple already done that has part numbers if possible.. however, building is an option, could use pictures and part numbers if available.

Would it be possible to install a threaded adapter of some sort on the power steering resivior so that I can then attach the stock CJ7 on it? As this may be cheapest and easiest route. But I could be wrong.

I've also seen some PS hose kits and fittings on line. But not sure which size or fittings to look for... anyone know what type of fittings to look for?

Thanks again guys for your input!!!!

 

[76cj7chick]

What I did on our 79 CJ7 was to buy the OEM hose. This hose fit the pump, but not the gear box. After trying to find all kinds of adapters with no success, I just went to a local auto parts store and found that a generic brake line with the same diameter hose fit the gear box perfectly.I cut the end off the OEM hose on the gear box end, and cut the nut off the generic brake line. Put the nut on the OEM hose, and flared the tube. Instant custom hose!

Pictures with step by step instructions please.

 

[76cj7chick]

My first guess would be a local N.A.P.A. or industrial supply.

Alright torxhead, would you happen to have part numbers??

 

[Torxhead]

What I was thinking of was a custom made hose that was modified by the supplier to fit your application. There are a lot of outfits, probably in your area that do custom hydraulic hose building. N.A.P.A. was a suggestion, since they do custom hoses for automotive applications. So you could buy a new power steering pressure hose for your CJ and have them modify it to fit, or have them build you a new hose. Similar to what Mriplaybass did.

Edit: Like this guy,Tubes and Hoses Seattle Tacoma

 

[Neuner]

Had to have custom hoses for my swap. Contacted several hydraulic line companies around town. Probably more common in Texas than elsewhere due to the oil industry but anyway, they greatly varied in cost and capabilities. Some could build the whole assembly but were very expensive or others were cheap and needed the connection ends. I wound up buying new hoses for the vehicle the engine came out of and for the CJ and they just connected them together in the length I needed.

Came with a warranty label and everything which surprised me.

 

[Hedgehog]

Goodness girl, you are tearing up the forum today, busy, busy, busy. Its not difficult to find a shop to build up a PS line for you. I had one mad and I was inexpensive. My suggestion is not to buy a pre made line. My Jeep guy says they never fit. All you really need is a Harbor freight tubing bender (cheap) and a tube long enough to get the job done with the proper fittings on it for your PS pump and gear box. Then bend her up to fit. Or Neuner has a good idea. Get both lines and have a shop mate them up. It's usually the ends that have to be bent correctly to fit your part, the middles can be manipulated fairly easily.

 

[mriplaybass]

Pictures with step by step instructions please.

Oops! I missed that you were using the GM pump! I need a little more info. Are you planning to use the GM hose, or the AMC hose? Are both hoses long enough to go between the pump and gear box? If you plan to use the GM hose, is the metal tube part of the hose the same diameter as the AMC hose? I can give step by step once I have more info. Adaptation can be done with basic hand tools for around $10 - $15 worth of common parts.

 

[76cj7chick]

Goodness girl, you are tearing up the forum today, busy, busy, busy. Its not difficult to find a shop to build up a PS line for you. I had one mad and I was inexpensive. My suggestion is not to buy a pre made line. My Jeep guy says they never fit. All you really need is a Harbor freight tubing bender (cheap) and a tube long enough to get the job done with the proper fittings on it for your PS pump and gear box. Then bend her up to fit. Or Neuner has a good idea. Get both lines and have a shop mate them up. It's usually the ends that have to be bent correctly to fit your part, the middles can be manipulated fairly easily.

Hedgehog, you're just trying to make a girl blush.

I have a tube bender.. would require the tubing...
Also, if you or someone else can post pictures of the modified hose would help a great deal. Because I'm confused... would I only use hard lines with a single hard tube and specific flared ends, or would I clamp a portion of the soft line with the hard lines..

I may be able to flare (did my own fuel lines) the tubing but just need to see how they come together.. All hard line or part soft and part hard line... if part soft, could use a picture.

May be able to use the fittings from the PS lines that I have, as I have the blazer and cj lines...

Sorry for the newb questions.

 

[76cj7chick]

Here is a picture of both the blazer (pump) and cj (gear house) PS lines...

 

[76cj7chick]

Oops! I missed that you were using the GM pump! I need a little more info. Are you planning to use the GM hose, or the AMC hose? Are both hoses long enough to go between the pump and gear box? If you plan to use the GM hose, is the metal tube part of the hose the same diameter as the AMC hose? I can give step by step once I have more info. Adaptation can be done with basic hand tools for around $10 - $15 worth of common parts.

Hey there Mr.

I do have both PS high pressure lines. I posted a picture of the hoses.

Could I just cut the gear house hose end off the cj line and then cut the fitting from the pump side of the blazer line and then connect to a hard line (after i flare the ends)???

If yes, do both ends need to have a soft high pressure hose in beteween)? If yes, how would I connect the soft hose to the hard hose? Would I use a clamp or is there a better aftermarket hose fitting available???

If there are aftermarket hose fittings anyone know what size and brand (at least size and style) to look for??

Thanks for your patience and help!!!!!!

 

[mriplaybass]

Super! Looks like you are about 30 minutes of work from adapting your own hose. If the metal part of the GM hose is 3/8" like the Jeep hose is, what you will need is 2 flare nuts for 3/8" brake line and a coupler to splice 3/8" brake line. Yes, you must retain the rubber part of the hose. If you only use steel line it will break due to the engine torque.
Cut the metal part of the Jeep hose leaving how ever much you need, do the same with the GM hose. Put the 3/8" brake flare nuts on each hose and flare them. Connect the 2 tubes with the coupler, and your hose is ready.
Hope this is understandable.

 

[76cj7chick]

Super! Looks like you are about 30 minutes of work from adapting your own hose. If the metal part of the GM hose is 3/8" like the Jeep hose is, what you will need is 2 flare nuts for 3/8" brake line and a coupler to splice 3/8" brake line. Yes, you must retain the rubber part of the hose. If you only use steel line it will break due to the engine torque.
Cut the metal part of the Jeep hose leaving how ever much you need, do the same with the GM hose. Put the 3/8" brake flare nuts on each hose and flare them. Connect the 2 tubes with the coupler, and your hose is ready.
Hope this is understandable.

Oooooohhhhhh!!! ...
I think I understand Mriplaybass!!!

just use the already made hoses!!
Cut an end off each hose then attach the reqiured fitting on the one side that was cut, then flare the tube!!!!
Then Walla!!!! Instant modified PS hose!

I think I'll keep the cj hose as its a lot longer than the gm hose.. Ill just cut the cj to pump hose fitting off. Then cut the to the pump on the engine fitting off. And then put the gm fitting on the the cj hose and then flare it...

Thanks for the help!!!!!!!

Hmm. After reading your post again.. maybe that wasn't what you were saying to do... Do you think it will? I may first try it how I said.. if it not work I will get a brake line and hose and fittings

 

[Hedgehog]

That will work for the return line = no pressure. Take your pressure side tubing to a hydraulic shop and they will do it for cheap. Should be cheap and easy. Pressurized hydraulic lines are crimped in a special way.

 

[Hedgehog]

Hedgehog, you're just trying to make a girl blush.

I have a tube bender.. would require the tubing...
Also, if you or someone else can post pictures of the modified hose would help a great deal. Because I'm confused... would I only use hard lines with a single hard tube and specific flared ends, or would I clamp a portion of the soft line with the hard lines..

I may be able to flare (did my own fuel lines) the tubing but just need to see how they come together.. All hard line or part soft and part hard line... if part soft, could use a picture.

May be able to use the fittings from the PS lines that I have, as I have the blazer and cj lines...

Sorry for the newb questions.

Just saw this. My hose looks just like a CJ hose. As I wrote above (and others) You need to have the pressure side done at a hydraulic shop. ...that is unless you have the proper hydraulic line crimp machine.

 

[Neuner]

That will work for the return line = no pressure. Take your pressure side tubing to a hydraulic shop and they will do it for cheap. Should be cheap and easy. Pressurized hydraulic lines are crimped in a special way.

Ditto -

Think mine was no more than $30 for the service. Mine look the photos/purchased hoses with the high pressure rubber line inbetween.

 

[mriplaybass]

I think we are on the same page. When I got home from work today, I crawled under our CJ7 and looked at how I did our conversion. Sorry, can't get any pictures due to the fact that there is absolutely no room! Would have to take the radiator out to see the conversion!

Our problem was that the hose fit the pump, but not the gear box. All I had to do was to cut the nut off the end that goes into the gear box. Then put on a new nut, which happens to be the same as a 3/8" brake tube nut, and re-flare the tube. You could do the same thing at the pump instead of the gear box if you have the room, but it is unlikely that a 3/8 brake nut will fit the GM pump. You would have to do some looking to find the right nut. Again, I don't know what diameter the GM tube is. You may have to do some mix and match at the local parts store if it is metric.

This is an OEM Jeep hose. The blue line is where I made my cut, then put on the new nut and re-flared the tube. Do the same thing with your GM hose.

If this is more of a problem than it is worth, I agree with Hedge, and Neuner. Check out NAPA, or some other place that makes up custom hoses to see what they can do for you. Just make sure you take both of your hoses with you because they will probably need the nuts.

 

[76cj7chick]

Just saw this. My hose looks just like a CJ hose. As I wrote above (and others) You need to have the pressure side done at a hydraulic shop. ...that is unless you have the proper hydraulic line crimp machine.

Hmmm. Unfortunately I don't have one. So will have to go to a shop.. (darn it) Thanks for the help. .