Where to buy/ have made PS hose for 4.3 v6 conversion to cj7 pump?

[76cj7chick]

Okay... Now I am very confused... again..

Can't I just use the two hoses that were remade? Just saw off a end of each hose then put the correct fitting on then flare it???? Or would it need to be flared by a hydraulic shop? ( wouldn't make sense to me)

 

[76cj7chick]

I think we are on the same page. When I got home from work today, I crawled under our CJ7 and looked at how I did our conversion. Sorry, can't get any pictures due to the fact that there is absolutely no room! Would have to take the radiator out to see the conversion!

Our problem was that the hose fit the pump, but not the gear box. All I had to do was to cut the nut off the end that goes into the gear box. Then put on a new nut, which happens to be the same as a 3/8" brake tube nut, and re-flare the tube. You could do the same thing at the pump instead of the gear box if you have the room, but it is unlikely that a 3/8 brake nut will fit the GM pump. You would have to do some looking to find the right nut. Again, I don't know what diameter the GM tube is. You may have to do some mix and match at the local parts store if it is metric.

This is an OEM Jeep hose. The blue line is where I made my cut, then put on the new nut and re-flared the tube. Do the same thing with your GM hose.

If this is more of a problem than it is worth, I agree with Hedge, and Neuner. Check out NAPA, or some other place that makes up custom hoses to see what they can do for you. Just make sure you take both of your hoses with you because they will probably need the nuts.

Hmmm.. that's what I thought. If it won't work. I can bring to a hydraulic shop. Thanks.

 

[76cj7chick]

Just saw this. My hose looks just like a CJ hose. As I wrote above (and others) You need to have the pressure side done at a hydraulic shop. ...that is unless you have the proper hydraulic line crimp machine.

So even if I cut the end of the hard line to replace with gm fitting then reflare ?? That is if fitting from gm hose can fit cj hose...

 

[76cj7chick]

Looks like the diameter of both hoses are the same except the flare types. Would it be difficult to flare the AMC hose to match the gm hose style? What flaring tool would I need to buy??

Thanks for your continued help!!!

PS. I'd use the gm hose but it is significantly shorter than the cj one mostly cause its bent. I may first try to bent the gm hose but if it doesn't work I will have to see if the jeep hose will work. Please feel free to let me know how that special flare is accomplished.

 

[mriplaybass]

I think this should make things crystal clear if you want to adapt your 2 hoses to fit instead of having a new custom one made up.

I will address this using the GM hose, though you can just as easily use the Jeep hose. Only difference would be that the splice would be made on the other end using the Jeep hose rather than what I have illustrated here.

Here is a stock photo of what I think your GM hose looks like. I am not sure which end is pump, and which is gear box, so if I labeled it wrong, just cut the opposite end.




Here is what your Jeep hose should look like.




Here is the order of assembly using the GM hose with it's original fitting to go to the pump, and the lower end of the Jeep hose to go to the gear box.



The fittings to make the splice between the 2 hoses are standard 3/8" brake fittings available at any auto parts store. The flares are standard inverted flares as shown on the left of your 2 pictures.
The part numbers from Advance Auto are: BLU-6C for the union and
321416.1 for the nuts. This is based on the assumption that you have 3/8" metal tubes the same as my Jeep has. If for some reason they are different than 3/8, get the appropriate size for your metal tubes.
Hope this clears things up for you!

 

[Hedgehog]

For some reason you have set your mind on doing this yourself. I don't agree with your decision, this is a job for a hydraulic shop .... a simple job for those that have the correct machinery, none the less a professional shop should do this. I'm not mad but I'm out of this one. I do admire your determination, but I can't help on this one. But if Mriplaybass has some idea or method, I'd follow his advice.

 

[76cj7chick]

Okay. So for now I went ahead and used the Chevy blazer PS hose instead of my cj hose. I cut the end off both hoses and replaced the proper thread from the cj to the blazer then re-flared the end. It looks like it might work. I also installed and after some bending eithe the tube bender, it fit.

However if it starts to leak or have any issues once I get the engine and everything put together and do a test start, and I notice it leaking, I'll take to a specialty shop.

See pic.

Thanks everyone for your help and I appreciate all the different ideas on how to accomplish this..

 

[76cj7chick]

For some reason you have set your mind on doing this yourself. I don't agree with your decision, this is a job for a hydraulic shop .... a simple job for those that have the correct machinery, none the less a professional shop should do this. I'm not mad but I'm out of this one. I do admire your determination, but I can't help on this one. But if Mriplaybass has some idea or method, I'd follow his advice.

Cause I'm a crazy (poor) girl. But if I have any issues with my flaring while testing everything, I'll take to a hydraulic shop. Thanks for your concern!!!:booze:

 

[76cj7chick]

I think this should make things crystal clear if you want to adapt your 2 hoses to fit instead of having a new custom one made up.

I will address this using the GM hose, though you can just as easily use the Jeep hose. Only difference would be that the splice would be made on the other end using the Jeep hose rather than what I have illustrated here.

Here is a stock photo of what I think your GM hose looks like. I am not sure which end is pump, and which is gear box, so if I labeled it wrong, just cut the opposite end.




Here is what your Jeep hose should look like.




Here is the order of assembly using the GM hose with it's original fitting to go to the pump, and the lower end of the Jeep hose to go to the gear box.



The fittings to make the splice between the 2 hoses are standard 3/8" brake fittings available at any auto parts store. The flares are standard inverted flares as shown on the left of your 2 pictures.
The part numbers from Advance Auto are: BLU-6C for the union and
321416.1 for the nuts. This is based on the assumption that you have 3/8" metal tubes the same as my Jeep has. If for some reason they are different than 3/8, get the appropriate size for your metal tubes.
Hope this clears things up for you!

Okay Bass, Thanks for the pictures!! It does help...
I decided touse the PC hose from the blazer. Cut off the proper ends then installed the cj thread to the blazer hose and declared the hose. I installed in the vehicle and it so far looks good. Will have to look for leaks when I get the Transmission /Transfer Case cross member made bought. If I failed only flareing I can bring to a hydraulic shop.

Thanks again for your help! And the priceless pictures!