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258 intake

258 intake
I'm switching my 81 CJ8 build from the original iron duke to a AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l . I have the t176trans for it already. I plan on doing a cam, rebuild, 4.0 head, 4 barrel intake and headers. Offy makes 2 intakes. One is a single plane and the other is their dual port. Do any of you guys have any input of which is better. This will be a 95% street driven jeep. I'm thinking of a holley 390 4 barrel. I'd go with the 470 truck avenger but it's probably too big.


I'm going to start by completely disagreeing with what others have said. An AMC straight 6 is not a tractor engine, nor was it ever derived from one. The AMC straight 6 is a derivative of a 1950's Nash flathead 6 design. It was completely redesigned in the 1960's specifically for AMC cars and came in both 199 cubic inch and AMC 232 i6 cubic inch varieties. Later AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l cubic inch versions only had larger bore and stroke to the original design. There was an even larger 282 cubic inch that was not sold in the US.

Even the last year 2006 4.0L Chrysler L6 was still based on the original 1986/87 fuel injected version designed by AMC.

Depending on the year of the engine, max horsepower is achieved at anywhere between 4000 and 4400 RPMs, and max torque is achieved at between 1800 and 2200 RPMs.

To get to your question, the stock intake on all AMC version straight 6's is an open plenum design, one big hole for all air/fuel to go through. The point of the dual plane is to split the primaries and secondaries of your 4 barrel carburetor. Manufacturers wouldn't make them if they didn't work, and have engineers that tested them to work.

If you plan on going with a 4.0L head on your AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l block, all of that is irrelevant anyway, you'd want to stick with the factory fuel injection that came on the 4.0L and not switch it back to a carburetor. The factory aluminum intake manifold on a 4.0L head is a far superior design to the factory cast iron AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l intake manifold any day. Plus the fact, as least as far as I know, there are no aftermarket intake manifolds for a 4.0L head. There are a few different places that make headers for the 4.0L head.

So, I guess I'll bounce it back to you, what do you plan on doing? Running the 4.0L head, or sticking with the stock head? If you stick with the stock head, then we can go further down the "can a AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l run a 4bbl carburetor" rabitthole...
 
U take ur jeep in the mountains? If so, how's it do with that carb if that's what ur running?


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I'm still running the stock carb on my AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l . If I keep this Jeep I will swap it to a MC2100.
 
Because I have fought with this damn carb for many years and get tired of it stalling when 4wheeling and now it doesn't pass smog because it is running to rich. I just feel the MC2100 is a better over all carb. I have never liked computer controlled carbs.
 
I run the stock OEM Carter BBD. As that is the only carb that is SMOG legal in Ca. for this Jeep.
I have to say-After learning the 'way' of this Carter. I am very pleased with it.
The only mod I have done to mine. Is the idle tube mod.
Idle Problems

Mtnwhlr-Are you allowed to switch out carbs in Co and such?

LG
 
I'm not sure that is why it is still on. When I bought the '84 you could get a Classic tag for it. Here a Classic tag is a 5yr tag that you need to pass the smog test to get then never have to smog test it again. At the time I didn't have the funds for a 5yr tag so I thought I'd just get it next year. But then CO changed the rules so now it doesn't qualify :bang::bang:
 
I run the stock OEM Carter BBD. As that is the only carb that is SMOG legal in Ca. for this Jeep.

I have to say-After learning the 'way' of this Carter. I am very pleased with it.

The only mod I have done to mine. Is the idle tube mod.

Idle Problems



Mtnwhlr-Are you allowed to switch out carbs in Co and such?



LG



Oh awesome. Where abouts in ca are you? I'm northern ca


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That info is below my avatar.;)
Palmdale......:eek::D
LG
 
I'm not sure that is why it is still on. When I bought the '84 you could get a Classic tag for it. Here a Classic tag is a 5yr tag that you need to pass the smog test to get then never have to smog test it again. At the time I didn't have the funds for a 5yr tag so I thought I'd just get it next year. But then CO changed the rules so now it doesn't qualify :bang::bang:

Know well of changes.:mad:
In 2011, PRK tighten up smog standards a great deal for our old hunks. Cost me a new 'cat'..........'Cats' in PRK are now model specific and have a serial number, just like a gun has.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Now we have the highest gas tax in the nation, THX to that to that POS Governor.
Classic tags here don't mean squat, I'm sorry to say. Still have to be SMOG tested every 2 years.:mad:
LG
 
Oh ok! Seems to be a nice area


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Been here for 25+ years. Lots of good jeep'n within a couple of hours drive at most. Some spots, only about 45 minutes from me.
LG
 
LG. That gov. You talking about moon beam Brown ? :)
 
LG. That gov. You talking about moon beam Brown ? :)

Yup-Been in office 3 times. Screwed us over EACH time.
Real piece of work.......
LG
 

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