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Is it me?

Is it me?

Vikingone

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Is it me or is there no pilot bearing in the flywheel. Also a little curious about why it looks oblong
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That looks like the bearing to me, maybe someone jammed the Transmission pilot shaft in?


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That looks like the bearing to me, maybe someone jammed the Transmission pilot shaft in?


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I would agree. The term bearing is misleading it's more of a bushing.
 
I would agree. The term bearing is misleading it's more of a bushing.



Thanks. It’s getting a new flywheel anyway so the bushing is gonna be replaced. How easy is the bushing to install? Also is this the pto port? 39cddc7e606fc3c38a35c8c81ea59188.webp


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I can't help you with the PTO ?, installing the pilot bushing is the easy part getting the old one out is the hard part. Watch some YouTube videos on it. I like the grease method.
 
I can't help you with the PTO ?, installing the pilot bushing is the easy part getting the old one out is the hard part. Watch some YouTube videos on it. I like the grease method.



No need to get the old one out. I’m getting a new flywheel. So that’s half he battle I guess


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The bushing isn't in the flywheel it's in the end of the crankshaft.
 
Yep that's the pilot bushing in the crank shaft. And yes that's the PTO port. Jeep T-18 ?


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Yep that's the pilot bushing in the crank shaft. And yes that's the PTO port. Jeep T-18 ?


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Looks as yes. I thought it was a Ford T-18 because it has a ten spline input shaft but Novak told me all fordt18 pto port is on the passenger side and Jeep T-18 is always on the drivers side. So it looks like mine is a Jeep T-18


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Jeep T18s have a 10 spline input also. The 76-79s are 1-1/16" like the Ford's. Not sure about the older ones. The 76-79 CJ input shaft sticks out ~7.5" vs the ford ~6.5".

If you have a 4:1 1st gear then it's definitely a CJ Transmission . If you have a 6.32 1st, then it could have either the ford or the 77-79 input shaft, as they are interchangeable. If you have the CJ input shaft, you can just use a stock replacement pilot bushing. If it's a did input shaft then you'll need a conversion pilot bushing. I know Novak sells,not sure if anyone else does.


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I struggled with many pilot bearing removals. Some I even had to give up on and use a dremel tool to cut them out. Then, while helping a friend change his clutch this past April, he showed me a way of removing them with ease. He merely threaded a 3/4"x10 tap into the bearing, tightened the tap, and out came the bushing! I imagine a 3/4" bolt would work as well. I felt like such an idiot! But, old dogs can learn new tricks!
 
I struggled with many pilot bearing removals. Some I even had to give up on and use a dremel tool to cut them out. Then, while helping a friend change his clutch this past April, he showed me a way of removing them with ease. He merely threaded a 3/4"x10 tap into the bearing, tightened the tap, and out came the bushing! I imagine a 3/4" bolt would work as well. I felt like such an idiot! But, old dogs can learn new tricks!

I'm not sure you'd get a 3/4" bolt to thread into ~.67" hole. But the tap idea is neat. Did have to thread the tap in until is contacted the crank to push the bushing out?

At the advice of an old gearhead, I packed the hole with grease and pushed a rod in the hole (I used an old clutch alignment tool). The grease forced the bushing out. I had to add grease a couple of time to get it out. Cleaning out all the grease was a pain though. I've since seen Youtube videos using bread to do the same thing. Cleanup looks much easier though.
 
I've since seen Youtube videos using bread to do the same thing. Cleanup looks much easier though.

There's also the wet toilet paper method. I like that one since it's a crappy job to deal with anyway....
 
The pilot 'bushing is in place, as it should be.
To remove. Pack the bushing hole with grease. Find a dowel that is close to the hole's ID.
Take hammer, and hit the dowel. The grease will push the bushing towards you.
You will have to add more grease as the bushing moves.
Soak new bushing in clean engine oil overnight and install.
Before install-Confirm bushing fit on input shaft of tranny.
LG
 
I've used the grease, toilet paper, and pilot bushing puller methods at some point or other, and have had these methods work or not work. But the tap method never fails. If the tap won't go into the bushing, either use a smaller tap, or drill the old bushing until the tap goes in. The bushings are brass, so the tap will cut in easily. Once it bottoms out against the crank, the bushing will move until it is out.
 
While you are there, upgrade that oil-light bushing with an actual pilot bearing. It will last much, much longer. Pack the bearing with grease after installing it. Put a little behind the bearing, in the bottom of the hole to keep it lined up later.


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