On Board Air?

[Hedgehog]

For those who have done it. Will a jeep wagoneer AC pump work well as an air compressor? I'm getting an '82 360 from a wagoneer with a compressor pump on it. I have no need for air conditioning ......

 

[Torxhead]

That depends, is it a York or Sanden compressor? There are a number of write ups about them and some in this forum.

 

[Hedgehog]

Yeah I'm finding that it's more important than I thought to get the engine delivered so I can REALLY dig into it. I've got to get an engine hoist for the delivery. At first I thought they would deliver and drop it off, but in the end they are bringing it to my house. It's up to my to get it off his truck. I hear that Autozone rents pickers for a refundable deposit. Will be checking into that tonight on the way home.

 

[mstar]

Not positive ,but I think Jeep used the York pumps.Someone else will probably know for sure. Mike

 

[BusaDave9]

I f you already have an air compressor, I'd use it. Don't need air conditioning.
But overall, I prefer a CO2 tank.

The Sept. issue of JP magazine reviewed 10 products to fill your tires on the trail. The best and fastest solution was the PowerTank CO2 tank.
They say it's "blazingly fast". It puts out 45 cfm. The 2nd fastest they tested was Kilby Air Boss at only 6.94 cfm which uses a compressor mounted on your engine not unlike an air conditioner compressor.
Not all tanks are 6 times faster than a compressor. It depends on the regulator. I think speed is important. It can easily take over an hour to fill your tires back up.
Here's the thread where I originally posted this info:http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/f32/onboard-air-10695/

 

[Hedgehog]

thanks for all the responses. If my engine does have the compressor I believe it has, this just might happen, we will see.

Having something extra rolling around my already small jeep doesn't sound appealing to me. Yes, I can see how practical it would be though.

 

[Torxhead]

When you are out with a group, having the best air system is kinda like being the only one with a winch when the trail gets tough, you make lots of "Friends".

 

[tarry99]

I f you already have an air compressor, I'd use it. Don't need air conditioning.
But overall, I prefer a CO2 tank.

The Sept. issue of JP magazine reviewed 10 products to fill your tires on the trail. The best and fastest solution was the PowerTank CO2 tank.
They say it's "blazingly fast". It puts out 45 cfm. The 2nd fastest they tested was Kilby Air Boss at only 6.94 cfm which uses a compressor mounted on your engine not unlike an air conditioner compressor.
Not all tanks are 6 times faster than a compressor. It depends on the regulator. I think speed is important. It can easily take over an hour to fill your tires back up.
Here's the thread where I originally posted this info:http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/f32/onboard-air-10695/

Busa,

Any feed back on how many times you can fill a tire ? I have seen guys use them before and even hook an air gun to them but I got to think that's a short term use factor only.............even though the tank is pressurized to what 2000 lbs?

 

[CJim7]

I believe your 360 is going to have a York. However, they did also use Sanden compressors (SD508, 708, and 908) on 80's era jeeps, particularly CJ's, Eagles, etc.

Both compressors work well, I have used both in the past, and the main difference is the York is a self oiled unit where as many Sanden compressors require oiling. I ran an inline oiler in front of my Sanden when I used it. Some Sandens are self oiled....evident by the large bolt-head on the top of the cylinder.

Sanden compressors are rotary style where as Yorks use a tradition crank/piston set up.

I have a 2½ gallon Viar tank hard-mounted to the underside of the Jeep, just above the rear driveline that I charge when airing up. I run a York and can operate air tools or air up tires in just a few minutes. A hand throttle works great to increase engine rpm... thus compressor speed.

 

[Hedgehog]

I bet a diving tank would work well too. They put some serious pressure in those tanks and a fill up is relatively cheap along with being easier to find a fill up place. For that matter finding a scuba tank pump isn't that difficult.

From the pictures of York compressors they look like mine. One thing though, mine is mounted on it's side where the ones I see converted to air compressors are upright. Is there a reason for this?

 

[mstar]

The York 210 series will operate on it's side or upright. The 210 is 2 cylinder 10 cubic inches and puts out enough air to run 1/2" impact wrench with a 2 1/2 gallon storage tank.I have one on my '67 Dauntless Buick 225 V6 motor and I think it's pretty cool.

 

[Hedgehog]

Very professional looking install. Can you tell me about it?

What is the blue line attached to?

Also what is the blue line made of to withstand the hot air supply?

Where did you get the air filter?

I'm beginning to believe that this is going to be VERY doable with little out of pocket cost.

 

[csuengr]

I have a York on my CJ. I have about $50 into my OBA system. Beats a $300 CO2 system any day. And it's always full.

 

[mstar]

You will want to visit Kilbyenterprises.com for info on building a system.Probably some old threads on this subject as well.The parts do add up to some dollars as the compressor is the cheap part(I paid $5.00 at swap meet)W/O clutch.You may be able to source a lot of the pieces locally. Mike

 

[TroyaCantrell]

The York 210 series will operate on it's side or upright. The 210 is 2 cylinder 10 cubic inches and puts out enough air to run 1/2" impact wrench with a 2 1/2 gallon storage tank.I have one on my '67 Dauntless Buick 225 V6 motor and I think it's pretty cool.

Sorry to hijack the thread but where did you get the heater vent hose you used. I haven't found one for under 30$ anywhere that is the 4 1/2".


Troy Cantrell
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Build thread - '66 CJ6 :
http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15075

 

[thiswontbetooexpensive]

Looks like a dryer vent hose for the house to me. It would work if that isn't what he used.

 

[TroyaCantrell]

Looks like a dryer vent hose for the house to me. It would work if that isn't what he used.

Yeah, looked at those. 4" and 6" I need 4 1/2, and 6 is too much to bunch. 4" will not stretch enough.




Troy Cantrell
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Build thread - '66 CJ6 :
http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15075

 

[Hedgehog]

Kilbyenterprises.com

Pretty stuff, but pricey. If your looking you need to go to the new site to shop and get pricing. I don't believe it is necessary to get all your parts from him, but the parts he has look like they are made for the job.

TroyaCantrell - I've been there, "I won't pay that much" many times. My advice is, sometimes it's best to just pay the $30.00. Everything is getting expensive, I can't go to the hardware store for a hand full of nuts and bolts for less that $25.00 these days. For your $30.00 you will get a hose that is designed to withstand the harsh environment found under the hood.

 

[Peanut Butter]

The York compressor was a great unit made by Borg Warner. In 1978 I use to be a quality control inspector for this compressor. The are easy to tear down and put together, though I am not sure you could find any parts. We shipped these compressors to Ford, VW, Jaguar, and AMC. Maybe even a few more. Recommendation was upright, but will work on it's side. Never been another one made like it. Rod

 

[PistolDave]

I have the 10lb CO2 "PowerTank" that I carry on my work truck for airing up tires and blowing out electrical equipment and whatnot. The CO2 is actually a liquid in the tank and will provide a lot more gas volume at 40 psi than say a tank of compressed breathing air or nitrogen which are not typically stored as liquids in portable containers. According to Powertank.com the 10lb like I have will air a 35x12.50x15 from 0 to 40 psi (8) times before it runs out, which is pretty decent for its size(7"x24 including carry handle). They are not cheap, my setup with tank, hi-flo regulator/gage set, carry handle, coiled 25' hose, and liquid filled gage inflator, and aluminum mounting bracket was about 500.00$ or so, but they are very high quality. Mine has ridden around in my service truck in the oilfield for 4 years with no problems.

POWERTANK - CO2 Air Systems

Dave