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Restored vs. Reproduced

Restored vs. Reproduced
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Restored vs. Reproduced


Did it ever crossed your mind that while you're restoring your jeep, you find that a lot of parts corrode easily and you can't restore them and instead you have to find it a replacement? But then, is the jeep still called an original even if there are reproduced parts?

Ok, so here's the thought:

How do we establish if a jeep is a "Restored Original" or a "Reproduction"?

When do you consider it an original; if it solely has original parts? Or do you still consider it original even if there are small parts replaced in it?

What makes the jeep "original"? Is it the body, the chassis, or what else..? (Like, take it out and it will no longer be considered original. Or there's an exception for which parts are replaced?)
 
Restored vs. Reproduced


Did it ever crossed your mind that while you're restoring your jeep, you find that a lot of parts corrode easily and you can't restore them and instead you have to find it a replacement? But then, is the jeep still called an original even if there are reproduced parts?

Ok, so here's the thought:

How do we establish if a jeep is a "Restored Original" or a "Reproduction"?

When do you consider it an original; if it solely has original parts? Or do you still consider it original even if there are small parts replaced in it?

What makes the jeep "original"? Is it the body, the chassis, or what else..? (Like, take it out and it will no longer be considered original. Or there's an exception for which parts are replaced?)

For me, If it has and original body and frame it is restored. If its a purchased fab kit, and not on a original frame, its reproduced.
 
For me, If it has and original body and frame it is restored. If its a purchased fab kit, and not on a original frame, its reproduced.

If you use replacement parts that are reproductions of the oem parts.

Restored to me means it looks no different the day it came off the dealer floor. This means original paint code interior engine, so on. No owner customized mods like family roll cage, Chevy, v8s. Etc.
 
If you use replacement parts that are reproductions of the oem parts.

Restored to me means it looks no different the day it came off the dealer floor. This means original paint code interior engine, so on. No owner customized mods like family roll cage, Chevy, v8s. Etc.

Id edit the v8's not to include AMC's.
 
If you use replacement parts that are reproductions of the oem parts.

Restored to me means it looks no different the day it came off the dealer floor. This means original paint code interior engine, so on. No owner customized mods like family roll cage, Chevy, v8s. Etc.
I would agree with this.
 
I remember way back a long time ago, I made the mistake of trying to sell my Jeep as stock. Then I realized that the oil, oil filter and spark plugs had been changed with non-factoy parts. It took years to over come my shame....................... :rolleyes:sorry, being a smart alic is a major part of my DNA.
 
I got over the restored to stock idea a long time ago. You see, if I'd have purchased it in '81 I would have modified it then just as I am today. I've never kept "stock" stock for long so why change that now?


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I've always like doing a restomod if you plan on useing it for what it is indended for.
 
I got over the restored to stock idea a long time ago. You see, if I'd have purchased it in '81 I would have modified it then just as I am today. I've never kept "stock" stock for long so why change that now?


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I have no idea how to answer your ? as I've never been a "stock showroom" type of guy either. I've always used my vehicles till they die and go to the scrap yard. :D
 
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I have no idea how to answer your ? as I've never been a "stock showroom" type of guy either. I've always used my vehicles till they die and go to the scrap yard. :D


Ditto, and like was posted earlier, I've modded every vehicle I've owned in some way so even the CJ wouldn't have been original for long.
 
If you use replacement parts that are reproductions of the oem parts.

Restored to me means it looks no different the day it came off the dealer floor. This means original paint code interior engine, so on. No owner customized mods like family roll cage, Chevy, v8s. Etc.

I have to agree with this too. There are different levels of restoration. Original paint can be worth more than a re-spray but other things need to be correct too such as bolts & nuts for a true restoration. For example not everyone knows that the Ford produced WWII jeeps had the Ford “F” stamped on every nut, bolt, and part. The reason for this was that the manufactures (Ford & Willys) had to provide an 18 month warranty and Henry didn’t want to get stuck with warranty work on a Willys part. (Go figure, warranty on vehicle sent into battle; there must have been an “Act of War” exemption.) This is getting nit-picky but if it is a true restoration the details need to be correct.

I think most “restored” jeeps are really “rebuilt” jeeps. Then there are the “restomods”, jeeps in good shape but built the way the owner wants.
 
I think most “restored” jeeps are really “rebuilt” jeeps. Then there are the “restomods”, jeeps in good shape but built the way the owner wants.

:agree: For one to be truely restored you need to use all OME parts. Try searching for OME parts in rare colors ( Nutmeg , Slate Blue , Honey ) and you'll see it can be quite exspensive for sure. Repaints dont garner near as much attention as a original paint survivor.
 
You won't find many restoration people on this forum.Most are focused on
performance and usefulness.With that thought I have not seen a 100 point restored jeep in person.I no they exsist somewhere but most have incorrect parts that you can see in a photo. It just seems to be the nature of jeep owners to want to upgrade parts for safety and reliability
for off road use.Most of the concour restorations is centered on early military vehicles. To your original question,in most circles a vehicle would not be considered correct with "reproduction " parts.In some cases complete cars and motorcyles can be assembeled with 100% new manufactured parts. If you watch the vehicle auctions you see the difference in money between original and reproduction. mike
 
:agree: For one to be truely restored you need to use all OME parts. Try searching for OME parts in rare colors ( Nutmeg , Slate Blue , Honey ) and you'll see it can be quite exspensive for sure. Repaints dont garner near as much attention as a original paint survivor.

That beautifully describes me :D
No restore/rebuild yet, but only using OEM parts as replacements...;)
 
I applaud your effort for sure. That kind of task is hard enough to pull off here in the United States. If I can be of help just PM me. :)

That beautifully describes me :D
No restore/rebuild yet, but only using OEM parts as replacements...;)
 
I applaud your effort for sure. That kind of task is hard enough to pull off here in the United States. If I can be of help just PM me. :)

Thanks for your offer, I will come back to you if necessary. :chug:
Unfortunately, for me Ebay is almost the only source for NOS AMC parts...
 
Retstored, reproduced then totally bastardized. Mine is the latter.

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Some auctions wont ship outside the U.S.A. I could help there. I can keep an eye out for things your in need of as well. Just shoot me a pm. :chug:

Thanks for your offer, I will come back to you if necessary. :chug:
Unfortunately, for me Ebay is almost the only source for NOS AMC parts...
 
Very true. Military jeeps definately dominate the restoration sector , as well they should. Whats more American or a piece of history than a Jeep?

As far as restoration people go I believe your right as well. There arent many hereor their a quieter bunch. Their not the type that want to be bombarded with posts about why they should swap out their Dana 27 for a disc brake Dana 44 . :D

There are some Cj guys out there I know of who like to restore Scramblers and Limited Edition Cjs like the Jamboree for example. Laredo and Limited models also garner some attention.

You won't find many restoration people on this forum.Most are focused on
performance and usefulness.With that thought I have not seen a 100 point restored jeep in person.I no they exsist somewhere but most have incorrect parts that you can see in a photo. It just seems to be the nature of jeep owners to want to upgrade parts for safety and reliability
for off road use.Most of the concour restorations is centered on early military vehicles. To your original question,in most circles a vehicle would not be considered correct with "reproduction " parts.In some cases complete cars and motorcyles can be assembeled with 100% new manufactured parts. If you watch the vehicle auctions you see the difference in money between original and reproduction. mike
 

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