Spray bombing interior/floor advice

[82Laredo]

I'm about to replace the front floor panels on my jeep and want to go ahead and paint the rest of the floor while I'm at it. I don't want to use a bedliner product as this jeep is a cruiser for my wife and I ordered a full set of fitted rubber floor mats to protect the wear areas. I would like to use spray can primer and paint from the hardware or auto parts store, likely rustoleum products. I will prep by using the wire brush wheel on my angle grinder to knock down the surface rust and old paint. All in all the floor is in good shape.

Is it as simple as cleaning with a degreaser (after the wire brush wheel) then wiping down with a solvent to get the surface prepped, then priming with an etching primer, followed by a semigloss top coat? Should I use a clear coat on top for extra protection?

Any advise is appreciated on the process or products. I know using automotive products with a spray gun is best but I think I can get a good enough result that provides future rust protection with spray cans. What I'm starting with:

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One more question regarding seam sealer, do you apply on top of bare metal or prime it first? I will be using a weld through primer around the edges of the floor pans. Thanks!

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Sealer-bare metal and make sure the sealer is paintable.
Prime the worst spots twice and allow lots of time to really dry. Have fans go'n to keep the air move'n.
You have a good handle on what is needed.
Good luck-
LG

 

[82Laredo]

Ok, thanks for the sealer and fan tip. I've been doing some reading on rustoleum and its incompatibility for future "real" paint jobs, requiring stripping to bare metal for adherence. Does anyone have any experience or comments on this?

That had me considering calling Eastwood for a single stage urethane and using my cheap HVLP gun that I have very little experience with. Does anyone know how well that would hold up on the floor?

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Urethane is not very flexible. In a jeep body, you want paint that can flex.
LG

 

[JimsCJ5]

I don't want to use a bedliner product as this jeep is a cruiser for my wife and I ordered a full set of fitted rubber floor mats to protect the wear areas.

The bedliner is more than just a alternative to carpet. It soundproofs and seals the metal from rusting from the inside. Even the cheap, autoparts store stuff (herculiner) is a huge improvement. The Durabak in my Bronco was about $100 total and is still there 10+ yrs later. It was one of the best things I ever did to the ol' girl.

 

[Woolyworm]

Check out Restore 10x. It's for decks and concrete, about $25 a gallon (which does half of your interior two coats). I used it on mine with good results.

Wooly

 

[Neuner]

I'm all for the liner as well. I haven't seen a painted interior yet that hasn't been scratched up.

I used the clear Raptor product. I took my seat material to an auto paint store and had a couple ounces made up of a matching color to mix with it. I then rolled it on. I chose the raptor because it has UV protection and I could customize it. Not as pretty of a finish as the other's who sprayed their's on but I'm happy and I prefer it so much more than the previous paint. It's not rubbery like herculiner. With the color I chose, it hides the dirt really well.

I also really like Wooly's suggestion.

If you don't want to spray you can look at monstaliner which holds up well but I've heard it is slick, especially when wet and people have wiped out trying to get to the back seats.

 

[PaRenegade]

Sealer-bare metal and make sure the sealer is paintable.
Prime the worst spots twice and allow lots of time to really dry. Have fans go'n to keep the air move'n.
You have a good handle on what is needed.
Good luck-
LG

I would agree. And yes use a self-etching primer, as it grips better. If you have any rust don't just prime over it. You'd be better of with a rust encapsulating paint. Eastwood.com has a lot of great paint / rust solutions.
The problem I have with any bedliner is the texture. Yes they look great and seal well but they grab dirt and are hard to clean after time.
Not sure what color your going for but I'll just throw this out there for you to check out. It's called FlexCote from POR and it's similar to a gel coat finish. Originally designed for boat hulls and is saltwater resistant. Comes in several colors. I did the underside of my body with it and like the way it turned out.

 

[HackFabrication]

Your tub appears to be in great condition. Fix any areas of rust, then go with some sort of bed liner. Check on Line-X, as they've got a super product. This is what I had done to mine:

Scorpion spray in bedliner top, bottom, rock sliders, bumpers, and inner fenders:

 

[Lumpy Grits]

An all black floor, in the desert summer is no fun-BTDT.
Wooly-Does 10X come in colors?
LG

 

[82Laredo]

Thanks for the replies. I'm still not sold on bedliner because once you do it there is no going back. I admit it looks good though and that might happen down the road if I'm not satisfied with paint.

I will look into the rust encapsulator from Eastwood, I've been eyeing their products for a while especially the inner frame treatment.

Thanks for the heads up on urethane paint! I might just try using a less expensive base/clear system like you can order from summit racing. Seems like it has good reviews and is beginner oriented. My end goal is to do the body work and paint on the exterior myself, and this will get me more familiar with the process and my paint gun. I wasn't wanting to put that kind of time in the interior paint with the weather getting nice finally.

Thoughts on rustoleum vs traditional base/clear???

Thanks again for the replies

 

[82Laredo]

Just watched the raptor liner how-to video, looks super easy and quick. Now I'm really torn!

 

[Woolyworm]

An all black floor, in the desert summer is no fun-BTDT.

Wooly-Does 10X come in colors?

LG

That's a good point. My floor is usually a mix of water and dead Mosquitos.

Yes, it comes in colors - 183 in fact. http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/restore/deck-and-concrete-restore-10x


Wooly

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Good to know
OMG-they have PINK
LG

 

[jammer1]

Used the raptor liner on the CJ8 build I'm doing. Went on nice and looks good. Don't know how well it holds up but others have said it holds up well. I sprayed epoxy primer then the bed liner so even if it were to lift the epoxy will protect the metal.

 

[HackFabrication]

Looks good Jammer!

 

[Neuner]

Just watched the raptor liner how-to video, looks super easy and quick. Now I'm really torn!

I've had mine only a year but it has held up well during that time. Only read positive reviews about it and with the UV protection and after a long deliberation as yourself, I went ahead with it. I had a painted floor before and there's no way I'd want it again after having this put in.

Mine doesn't hold dirt like the others claim. It's not rubbery and doesn't have pockets to hold dirt. Cleans up easy. Besides, with it a custom tan color, you really don't notice any dirt.

Can't remember which but I rolled on a basic rustoleum grey primer before.

 

[82Laredo]

I've had mine only a year but it has held up well during that time. Only read positive reviews about it and with the UV protection and after a long deliberation as yourself, I went ahead with it. I had a painted floor before and there's no way I'd want it again after having this put in.



Mine doesn't hold dirt like the others claim. It's not rubbery and doesn't have pockets to hold dirt. Cleans up easy. Besides, with it a custom tan color, you really don't notice any dirt.



Can't remember which but I rolled on a basic rustoleum grey primer before.

Yours looks awesome in the tan. I like the texture too

 

[82Laredo]

Between this board and friends I decided on the raptor liner. I call upol with some application questions and they referred me to the local rep who was very helpful and returned my call within about 20 minutes, very nice guy.

Here's my prep plan:

Weld thru primer on all seams followed by seam sealer

Etching primer on all bare metal

Rust encapsulator on any places I can't get completely clean

Rough up all good paint with sandpaper or wire brush wheel

Epoxy primer entire interior (rep said to use red scotchbrite on primer if it has been on for more than 30 minutes)

Raptor liner

Question: I'm guessing most people do the side panels of the interior too (complete interior and not just floor)

Thanks

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Allow LOTS of time for the primer to set.
Fans help here-
Take your time, and please keep us updated.
Good luck,
LG