T-18?

[Petescj]

Just judging by the shifter is this a T-18 ? Im gonna call but I was curious of what the shifter looks like.

 

[tarry99]

Just judging by the shifter is this a T-18 ? Im gonna call but I was curious of what the shifter looks like.

Is this a Test?
Looks kinda like one...........if the boot was off and could see the Transmission top maybe? tough to tell, crawl under it.

 

[Petescj]

Was looking at it off an Ebay ad. Called the number and they have no idea. Its from a dealership. Hes supposed to drive it around the parking lot tommorow and let me know. He says he knows what a Granny gear is.

 

[Petescj]

Shouldve added that nothing matches up with this Jeep. Its an 85 with a AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l 8 cylinder.

Pics confirm its an 8 cylinder AMC though. Looks like a decent Yj tub swap as well. Ebay ad from a dealership.

 

[tarry99]

Well that old crooked stick is pretty normal looking for a T-18 ..........but I guess it could be allmost anything .............after market they ship them straight so you can put the bends in for your own application.......

Good Luck!

 

[Petescj]

If I know Ebay Im not going to have a shot. Itll go higher than Im willing to pay

Jeep : Other CJ7 in Jeep | eBay Motors

 

[elwood blues]

That shifter doesn't look right to be a T-18 , at least it doesn't look like mine. But the last year that a T-18 was installed was '79, I think, and the last year for a V8 was '81. So, yeah, that engine/tranny combo could be out of anything. I think you're wrong on the YJ tub though, I think that's a CJ7 tub.

Anyway, I decoded the VIN for you, because I'm a little bored tonight

1JCCF87E0FT023974

1 - America
J - Jeep
C - MPV
C - AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l
F - ? (F not listed)
87 - CJ7
E - 4,AMC 150 lbs GVW
O - check #
F - 1985
T - Toledo
023974 - serial #

 

[mtnwhlr]

I think you are right about it being a YJ tub but I can't help with what Transmission it has.

 

[Saddle Tramp]

Just judging by the shifter is this a T-18 ? Im gonna call but I was curious of what the shifter looks like.

The first picture below is a 1977 CJ T-18 . Notice how the bends are sharp. The shifter in Petescj’s picture shows that the lower bend is a little more of a softer curve than the known CJ T-18 and the upper ones aren’t the same. (But really who says all shifters are created equal.) However the second picture is also the shifter of a T-18 . I’m really not sure of its exact lineage/history but it is a 6.32 low T-18 with a CJ T-18 front bolt pattern (not Ford butterfly) and the Dana 20 Transfer Case adaptor plate and rear output shaft but the front shaft is same as the Ford T-18 . Humm…. I picked it up because I got it and the Dana 20 Transfer Case for $50; just couldn’t pass on the deal.

 

[coldair]

This is what my Ford T-18 shifter looks like. I will get you an installed picture latter.

 

[Posi]

It's an SM420 (driverside, pto)

 

[coldair]

Drivers side PTO?

 

[Posi]

Look at the under Jeep pics and you'll see a driver side PTO port cover plate. T-18 have them on the passenger side.

Hope this helps.

 

[tarry99]

Look at the under Jeep pics and you'll see a driver side PTO port cover plate. T-18 have them on the passenger side.

Borg Warner T-18 ........Ford version.......right side PTO Port ( Pass.)
Borg Warner T-18 ........ Jeep Version..... Left side PTO Port (Drive)
Borg Warner T-19...............................PTO port on both sides.

Still looks like a Jeep version Borg Warner T-18

 

[Petescj]

It's an SM420 (driverside, pto)

That would be quite acceptable as well. I called back today but had to leave a voicemail. If that is a SM420 Im prepared to bid more. How sure are you its a SM420?



I believe its a Yj tub by the squared flares and missing body mount . Thats the one that has to be relocated.

 

[Petescj]

Look at the under Jeep pics and you'll see a driver side PTO port cover plate. T-18 have them on the passenger side.

Borg Warner T-18 ........Ford version.......right side PTO Port ( Pass.)
Borg Warner T-18 ........ Jeep Version..... Left side PTO Port (Drive)
Borg Warner T-19...............................PTO port on both sides.

Still looks like a Jeep version Borg Warner T-18

Hmm. The SM420 would need an adapter plate for the AMC V-8. The Cj version of the T-18 doesnt have the 6.32 1st gear. The V-8 couldve come out of a J-truck.

What a conundrum. Its about 5 hrs away and being its at a dealership they dont know what their looking at.

 

[Posi]

I've rebuilt enough Jeep T-18s and own 2 presently, the port is on the driver side



Both the sm420 and Jeep T-18 have adapters and driver side covers however, more likely it's a T-18

 

[Posi]

The Cj version of the T-18 doesnt have the 6.32 1st gear.

761/2-79 it does

 

[tarry99]

Hmm. The SM420 would need an adapter plate for the AMC V-8. The Cj version of the T-18 doesnt have the 6.32 1st gear. The V-8 couldve come out of a J-truck.

What a conundrum. Its about 5 hrs away and being its at a dealership they dont know what their looking at.

That is a real Problem that is well know amounst anyone using the Jeep Version T-18 or early T-86 which had the left side PTO cover.........I still would almost say that seems to be a T-18 Jeep version as the location of the shifter seems to be in the correct location......and The Jeep versions did have the 6.32:1 low Gear

 

[Posi]

Ask them where reverse is,

Sm420 towards you and down
CJ T-18 71- 76 ½ over and up 4.02
CJ T-18 76 -78 over and up 6.32 first gear
CJ T-18 79 and FSJ over and down 6.32 first gear