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83 CJ7 350 tbi, TH350, D300 twin sticked & clocked, narrowed Chief D44 Eaton Elocker & Moser shafts, Explorer 8.8 Detroit locker, 410's, RE 4.5" spring lift 1" body lift, 35" Claws, cage tied to frame, Corbeau baja seats, HD tie rod and draglink, u-bolts flipped, custom skid plate and sliders, Warn 9.5ti winch with Amsteel synthetic line
WOW 13 inches of lift to play in the sand. I don't meen to put your jeep down, but that sounds like it's going to be real unstable in the sand.
I've seen stock height jeeps roll down jeep hill, up there in Silver Lake.
Now if your run'n HumVee axles that would be Bad <-BAD WORD->.
Well the axles are rotated so that the pinion angle is not that bad at the axle.
I have 6 inch lift springs and did the axle flip that was around 7 inches
the schd 80 i have one is 2inch id which will not quite slip over the rear so i will have to do some work on the lathe and on the front the drive shaft is 1 inch od so i got 1 inch id pipe and will have to do a lil work there as well!!!!
This is just food for thought, but my CJ had a modified driveshaft when I bought it. The PO had installed a CV joint on the rear shaft to help with vibrations from the 6" lift.
Hang with me here...The driveshaft gave out on takeoff in a Mud Fast track race (darn 5000 RPM and drop-the-clutch launch anyhow )
Here is what it looked like after finishing the race...
As you can see, it didn't hold very well.
So I went to a specialty driveshaft shop and asked the experts what to do.
He recommended that I use DOM tube to rebuild the shaft, using the old parts (to save some green).
SO away I went to the machine shop...Here is what he came up with...
you can see the shaft in the upper part of the pic. it is either 5/8" or 3/4" (I can't remember now, Old Timer's kicking in...) DOM tube. It went back to the driveshaft shop and put back together and balanced. Its 19" long, weighs about 50 lbs, and is virtually indestructible (the shaft anyways).
Now I can't tell you the difference in strengths between DOM and poop pipe, but I bet CJ can (he is almost a rocket scientist, really!), but I will bet its a bunch.
What I'm trying to get at in a very long-winded post is this: If the experts recommend this kind of strength for a little Mud-Boggin' CJ like mine (compared to yours anyways), don't ya think that its worth the extra time and $$ to do it right, instead of making do with the scrap you have laying around the house?
You really don't want to drop a driveshaft (or worse) with all your friends (Yea, I saw your 18 years old) looking on, do ya?
Let me understand this. You have a jeep that had 6 inches of lift and you are wheeling in sand where most people run low jeeps. Then you did an axle swap which actually nets about another 5 inches, to go on sand. Now you want to use pipe that is design only for pressure applications and was never intended for twisting force.
I don't understand your logic at allunless you just want to be the biggest jeep around your town which is fine but the pipe has to go. You need tubing. Dom tubing has a completely different manufacturing process and can handle the twisting forces of a driveshaft. Pipe WILL self destruct and could hurt you, your jeep or somebody else. Don't do it. Get the right material. I think your jeep is destined to be a superball bouncing down the side of a sand hill but i am just an opinion. Do what you want with your lift but at least do the shafts properly.