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Full on or dedicated hunting vehicle

Full on or dedicated hunting vehicle
It only happened once and that was in a locked Bronco. I actually don't know how they did it without me knowing it. That once made me rethink what I leave in the vehicle.

For those that say, "I should hunt some where else." My hunts cover most all of southern Arizona, sometimes driving hundreds of miles, I hunt where the critters are. Unfortunately Southern Arizona is also a hot bed of illegal crossing and drug running. You never know who you will run into. Also factor in illegals looking for something to eat or drink.

Unfortunately coyote populations are far higher in agricultural areas than it is in open desert. Lots to eat, that's the way it is around populated areas. My favorite or highest success hunting areas include water, cows and old agriculture.

Generally here isn't and hasn't been a problem with theft when predator hunting. But it is increasing. Nothing is truly safe, there is only an appearance of safety, but a locked or semi locked compartment will always feel safer than a rifle laying on the seat of an open Jeep, it's only common sense.

The CJ5 back is 36" in length and ~47 wide. My gear is usually custom built for the task at hand, an 870 with a short barrel, reflex scope, long mag tube AR style stock, fast and deadly out to ~50 yards. My primary is a highly customized Ruger #3 I built in 223 Remington, she's short, semi heavy, fits me like a glove and a proven coyote rifle out past 300 yards.

I'm thinking a top rack going between the windshield and roll bar or a stacked rack on the dash would serve me wonderfully for the primary weapons, meaning those that are in active use.

The stored weapons and additional gear will be served well in a locked box completely encompassing the rear storage area stored across the jeep.
 
One thing in regard to jeeping on BLM land was I got a huge amount of grass and sage stuffed in between the skid-plate and muffler.I was amazed that it didn't catch on fire. Another good reason to carry a large fire extinguisher onboard.The BLM Ranger said they have 1 or 2 vehicles burn up every year.

In 1972 catalytic converters became a requirement on CJ5s for the first time and nobody realized just how much heat those things put out. Guys were driving in the tall grass and sage brush (no tread lightly in those days) and the bon fires began. It took a few years for the word to spread.
 
In 1972 catalytic converters became a requirement on CJ5s for the first time and nobody realized just how much heat those things put out.

Maybe CJ's sold in various parts of the US or Canada, but my 1976 CJ5 is a non-catalyst vehicle. Says so right on the dash sticker.
 
Cats are required in Arizona for a '75. My local Jeep guy says that those were difficult years for emissions regulation. State requirements were in all over the place in those days. But, it is interesting to note that ALL CJ5 V8's had an air pump.

You are right about brush getting in the space between the Transmission /Transfer Case and the skid plate. Been there done that. Sniff, snif darn it there's a fire we've got to clean out the skid plate again. That was the way it was with the '80. It had a much larger plate than the '75. The'75 has more of a cross member than a plate. Good and bad there, less protection, fewer fires. I suppose we were lucky though, we never had a grass fire it was always smoldering sticks and twigs.
 
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I've been trying to come up with a good way to securely carry the long rifles out of reach of stick fingered SOBs in a CJ5 too. I like the rock guard idea or even the rear bumper. I don't like the idea of the having the guns outside the vehicle, but in a CJ5 your options are Limited . If you made them out of 2 or 3 by 6 inch rectangle tubing that would be water tight. Bolt it to your frame on some kind of rail that you could slid out so you could open it up to get to your gun.

Speaking of predator control, The best vehicle is a UH-12ET. Good visibility and plenty of room for shotgun and ammo. You get 2" of fresh snow and lookout!!!:) Ah.. the good old days.
 
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I think I'm getting it now.

PeteCJ, (Gatorbate you to) could you bring your Avatar in here once again and flesh out your idea a little bit?

I'm beginning to visualize a 3x6 or so steel tube, closed on each end with a water tight cover. Naturally it would be all fuzzy on the inside. Not necessarily mounted on the frame, though that would be a good idea. Mounted to my nerf bars tight to the body though. Hmmm, probably wouldn't be good where it snows and rains a lot, but we don't get much of either of those. This one deserves some thought.
 
lots of the hunting jeeps around here have stand up gun racks mounted to the floor then usually with a support higher up..usually they are 2 gun racks..when I had gun racks in my pick ups,I would bolt a length of chain to the floor,then on the other end attach a pair of handcuffs.I would slip them through the trigger guards .by attaching the chain to the chain on the cuffs,it enabled me to lock 2 guns but be able to get them fairly quick
 
I think I'm getting it now.

PeteCJ, (Gatorbate you to) could you bring your Avatar in here once again and flesh out your idea a little bit?

I'm beginning to visualize a 3x6 or so steel tube, closed on each end with a water tight cover. Naturally it would be all fuzzy on the inside. Not necessarily mounted on the frame, though that would be a good idea. Mounted to my nerf bars tight to the body though. Hmmm, probably wouldn't be good where it snows and rains a lot, but we don't get much of either of those. This one deserves some thought.

Dont take any offense to the CJ8 stuff. Its easy for me or anyone else to spend your money on another Jeep. The buy in on a Scrambler is considerably higher for a quality runner and I understand the cash factor for sure.

I was trying to figure out how you could mount them on the inside of the tub down by the rocker area at first. Its been a few years since Ive had my CJ5 but even the CJ7 looks too small in that area. On top of that I think youd have to relocate the seat belts and it seems like alot more of a p.i.t.a.

Thats what led me to think more toward mounted to the frame and made as a dual purpose nerf bar , gun case. Im going off prior posts that your not rock crawling and rubbing them off boulders or anything. Not knowing the measurements of your rifles puts me at a disadvantage but Im sure you can figure that out. :D I'll have to draw a picture of what Im thinking and then post it. Im not computer savvy enough to do much else. :o

One thing I would say is you can fab up what will work for you now. Then Id start thinking about a small trailer project. Im going to be using the back 1/2 of my Limited tub for a trailer to keep our camping gear in. The possibilities of mounts and personal customization for that type of project is endless. It would be nice to have the extra space if you need supplies for an extended stay out there. Again its easy for me to spend your money though. You know your Jeep and fabrication skills better than I do. :chug:
 
About the Scrambler stuff. I knew that given 24 hours I'd be fine with it, and it is true that a CJ6 or CJ8 would serve me better. I'm not upset, but last night if I let the fingers fly I would have written something stupid.

Maybe I view threads like this a little differently from others. I think of them as a group opportunity to work out a problem. If during the process someone else solves a problem the thread has done its job. It's not really about me or my problem.


I think there is an internal lesson going on here. I have gotten used to relatively big vehicles and more stuff than necessary. The size of the CJ5 is in an odd way a means to an end for me. The challenge is great fun.

Petescj - It wasn't your post that made me almost go all stupid in the mind, it's all good my friend.

More and more I'm liking your idea. You and I might not be on the same path. I'm working out more or less a set of secure water proof single rifle water proof boxes attached to the side above/on the nerf bars. The boxes need to be easy to remove. Yeah I think this can be done.
 
I'm not upset, but last night if I let the fingers fly I would have written something stupid

Petescj - It wasn't your post that made me almost go all stupid in the mind, it's all good my friend.
I know it was my post and I'm sorry, I'm getting old and I tend to just say whats on my mind. I wish you the best of luck with your build and happy hunting :chug:
 
You and I are closer that you'd expect. I'm 55 with a birth date of 12/12/58. Two years and a couple days apart. Not to worry, I was upset at the time, but it wasn't anything to be upset about, you were/are right. Honestly I like the CJ5 for the memories it brings. Your input is always welcome :) O I might need to think on it for a day or so sometimes, but your always welcome.
 
I'm glad we are good the last thing I want to do is PISS someone off on this site.
 
It would take a guy with very big cahones to try to burglarize my vehilce while out somewhere out of site of civilization. Especially if I was out shooting somewhere near. I guess I'm getting too old for being nice to thieves.:mad:
 
This is kind-of what popped into my head when for a Rock guard/ gun case

 
IOPORT51 - Sorry to have skipped comment on your thread. I use those cases all the time. They are a great way to keep a gun safe and easy to get to. In the past my buddy and I strap them on each side of my hunting stuff box kept in the back of his truck with one of those big caps with a door on in the back. Works great. When we get to the hunting area we pull the back boot off the cases and use them like a cowboy scabbard. Guns are protected and don't rattle around. I'd like to figure a way to continue to use them. One problem is their length. With the back boot on they are quite a bit longer than most rifles.
 
It would take a guy with very big cahones to try to burglarize my vehilce while out somewhere out of site of civilization. Especially if I was out shooting somewhere near. I guess I'm getting too old for being nice to thieves.:mad:


That's not at all true.
They would only need to be very stupid.
There is no shortage of people meeting that requirement.
 
HEDGEHOG and IO, kinda forgot about those scabbard things since i'v been hunti'n out of the wrangler.With the CJ5 I just strapped a kolpin to one side of the roll bar with BIG cable ties (employer was phone co.) without the boot .On the other side did the same with a leather rifle scabbard that had leather straps and the flap thing to secure rifle.This was a great way to carry the rifles but NO SECURITY. The idea with the swingout tube on frame may have some merit,looks interesting. If it could swing out then up like Lambo doors . Can you just visualize that! mike
 
I fear that to be effective it would have to have the seal of a submarine. Lots of dirt, mud and just plane water flies around under there, especially in a rain storm.
 
Don't know how skilled a welder you are, but if you're going to mount something externally, I would think something like a fat .50 ammo can design would work great. Granted, it would require cutting up and welding several cans together to get the right length, but I LOVE ammo cans. Water tight, air tight, and can be bolted down and a padlock added pretty easily.

Got to love milsurp stuff.....

Military Storage & Ammo Cans At Sportsman's Guide
 

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