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The second pic where you primed the front wheel well section looks to be higher towards the front compared to the original wheel well. I’ve seen this method used in the past and the butt welded front piece was level with the original wheel well. Wasn’t sure if there was a perticuler reason you did it this way or just the way it came out.
The second pic where you primed the front wheel well section looks to be higher towards the front compared to the original wheel well. I’ve seen this method used in the past and the butt welded front piece was level with the original wheel well. Wasn’t sure if there was a perticuler reason you did it this way or just the way it came out.
It’s merely sitting there... not completely lined up. Look at the finished pics and both sides are straight, level & look stock. The finished seam isn’t visible.
Most people wouldn’t notice the change but a CJ owner would certainly feel the difference if they sat in the seat.
Ok so since I read the entire thread and no one else asked I will!
So.. your original seats you say you still have them?
They must be really taking up a lot of room and constantly getting in your way!
Well.. if you wasn't on the other side of the country, I would offer you at no charge ..just from the kindness of my heart to help you free up space and get those pesky trouble makers out of your way and move them to my Jeep that currently has no seats. .
Ok so since I read the entire thread and no one else asked I will!
So.. your original seats you say you still have them?
They must be really taking up a lot of room and constantly getting in your way!
Well.. if you wasn't on the other side of the country, I would offer you at no charge ..just from the kindness of my heart to help you free up space and get those pesky trouble makers out of your way and move them to my Jeep that currently has no seats. .
Boy! been a while since I was in here. Cj seats are , IMHO a problem, especially for tall guys 6-3". The originals can be sourced, with a bit of luck, from an older model chevy work van, back in the day I could pick them up from a custom van shop. another thing lost in time, for 25$ a pair. I found these and had them recovered, Life was good. I then discovered how much energy it took to keep your but in them while doing real off roading, Hence the aftermarket replacements. The Mastercraft seats were the shortest and thinnest suspension seats I found but still too tall and too thick in the back, hence the wheel well cut and the lowered mounts. The other issue I have with aftermarket seats is that you don't get to even look at them , much less set in them. I got lucky and attended a truck show put on by 4x4 parts and Mastercraft had a display. All aftermarket seats are not created equal and some of them qualify as instrument's of torture. Things are much more comfortable on and off road now. I recommend this as a solution, The original seats still languish away in my storage waiting for a project, possibly something 2WD and street bound, but I do very much appreciate your kind offer of relocation, you are truly overflowing with the milk of human kindness. And for the record I am lucky enough to live the good life in the Republic of Texas. cheers!
Boy! been a while since I was in here. Cj seats are , IMHO a problem, especially for tall guys 6-3". The originals can be sourced, with a bit of luck, from an older model chevy work van, back in the day I could pick them up from a custom van shop. another thing lost in time, for 25$ a pair. I found these and had them recovered, Life was good. I then discovered how much energy it took to keep your but in them while doing real off roading, Hence the aftermarket replacements. The Mastercraft seats were the shortest and thinnest suspension seats I found but still too tall and too thick in the back, hence the wheel well cut and the lowered mounts. The other issue I have with aftermarket seats is that you don't get to even look at them , much less set in them. I got lucky and attended a truck show put on by 4x4 parts and Mastercraft had a display. All aftermarket seats are not created equal and some of them qualify as instrument's of torture. Things are much more comfortable on and off road now. I recommend this as a solution, The original seats still languish away in my storage waiting for a project, possibly something 2WD and street bound, but I do very much appreciate your kind offer of relocation, you are truly overflowing with the milk of human kindness. And for the record I am lucky enough to live the good life in the Republic of Texas. cheers!
84 CJ7 4 banger-owned since new in 1984 bought off truck at dealership - rebuilding 258, T176 with Sniper EFI D300 4:1 Lomax gears Twin Sticked 1 piece axels with locker
still have them. the original were the same as you would find in a 70-80s chevy work van. low back buckets. I used to buy them from a van customizing shop for $50 a pair back in the day.
this is what they look like. Some new foam and springs with marine vinyl covers. My girl friend thought orange on red would look good with the yellow. What can I say, she is an professional artist.
I am cutting out my wheel wells now so my seat goes back. I see in this pic your seat frames that bolt to floor are the same. My passenger is different because it flip forward. My jeep is a 81 CJ5 it looks like if i bought another driver side and flip them around they might work any thoughts thanks Eric
I am of the opinion that putting seats in a CJ of any other variety than what it came with is a major big PITA.
Seats from another vehicle most likely will need some sort of re engineered mount and will more than likely take up more of the room that was meant for you than is comfortable. They may look good but be of a material that may not be the best choice for an open vehicle and will sun fade and rot before you know it. If you do have the occasion to do some serious off road driving you may not find them capable of having your but dropped in them with considerable force and still having springs or passing. Worse yet you may find they do not cushion and support your favorite back side in a way that will allow you to walk normally for a day or two. Having a seat that will hold you in the proper position with out sliding around on off camber is a plus too.
I found some comfortable aftermarket seats in the master craft Nomad. coincidentally the least expensive seat Mastercraft sells.
now for the bad news, this seat like every other aftermarket seat that claims to "Bolt into your CJ" may, in fact bolt to the mounts but unless you are shorter than 5' 10" your head will stick above the roll bar and the stearing wheel may very possibly rub your stomach.
I made new seat mounts to drop the seat 3" and got my head out of the roof and back down where I can see out of the windshield rather than over it but it was still a bit cramped for and aft. With the seat in the full back position it is in contact with the rear wheel well and that is all there is.
unless you modify the body to gain more room which will mean stretching the body, I guess I should have bought a CJ7 but it a bit late to second guess that now or modifying the fender well. I think notching the wheel well will be much easier than stretching the whole body so that's the way to go.
I am quite proud of the fact that I have not cut,chopped or other wise changed the structural integrity of My CJ5 and to do this Modification required much thought and consideration and a plan to make this look sort of like this is the way it is supposed to be. You have heard the saying measure twice and cut once? well I measured, changed, thought through and measured again about 30 times before making a cut.
So, after this incredibly long winded, but hopefully entertaining, introduction I offer these pictures and captions.
This is the whole, more or less a case of connect the dots. Sawsall is not a precision tool and this required a bit of grinding to get everything in the right plane and tangent to the corners.
For those that have never seen/used one of these, this is a spot weld cutter. It cuts the part you want to remove and leaves the part you want to save. then you grind the weld that was left behind to smooth things up again.
this is the seat back in position to check the fit, no I have not covered the hole yet, I think it fits pretty well. the seat back angle is good and the seat slider clicks in just the right place and the seat slides back a whopping 2". Which is a pretty good ways when your talking about belly room.
some of you may be wondering why I only went back 2" and this is the answer. two inches is where the seat back hits the roll bar.
Now please watch for part two where I deal with a few small problems like braking and rolling 10ga galvanized sheet metal, yes that's right galvanized. I think I can do a passable spot weld on 10 ga but I have not tried to do it in a vertical position.
When all things are said and done this was the difficult part and the first cut was traumatic to be sure and so I am glad it is done.
