Build Thread Rough but Ready Renegade

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

congrats on the way it came out! the blue toned down quite a bit since you put all the goodies back in! i would love to find that rubber floor material you got , i have never seen it before. there is no better feeling then hoping back in something you put blood sweat and tears into and taking off down the road! keep us posted , like you said it will never be done

 

[BC CJ]

BC CJ, where did the body for that 5 come from? It is in great shape!

Great looking build and the mats kick butt!

Thanks CJ! I found the jeep in the local classifieds. The guy lived about 5 mins away from me! It was imported from the USA at some point; not sure how many owners ago. So it's probably a California Jeep; that seems to be where people from BC go to find good condition old vehicles. If it weren't for the corners and seams the floor would be pretty much perfect. The sides however have a fair bit of bondo.

I was pretty pumped about the mats too. I got the last 3 feet they had.


Thanks Brian! I've got a few more tricks up my sleeve before this project has to sit for a couple months. I'm off on family visits and what not. But this summer I want to be driving it!

 

[wondernad]

Those mats are great! How thick are they? Are they soft? Looking really good all around!

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[BC CJ]

Those mats are great! How thick are they? Are they soft? Looking really good all around!

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Thanks wondernad! The mats are 3/8" thick. They are a softer rubber. It was easy to cut with a utility knife. When stepped on they flex a little bit but its not like foam at all. I guess an easier answer would be similar to other rubber floor mats... but thicker.

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

Thanks wondernad! The mats are 3/8" thick. They are a softer rubber. It was easy to cut with a utility knife. When stepped on they flex a little bit but its not like foam at all. I guess an easier answer would be similar to other rubber floor mats... but thicker.

im sure we dont have one down here but what store are they from? maybe i can order some! i found something simillier but its made to fit in a chevy express van and cost $250 usd by the foot would be great!

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

Thanks CJ! I found the jeep in the local classifieds. The guy lived about 5 mins away from me! It was imported from the USA at some point; not sure how many owners ago. So it's probably a California Jeep; that seems to be where people from BC go to find good condition old vehicles. If it weren't for the corners and seams the floor would be pretty much perfect. The sides however have a fair bit of bondo.

I was pretty pumped about the mats too. I got the last 3 feet they had.


Thanks Brian! I've got a few more tricks up my sleeve before this project has to sit for a couple months. I'm off on family visits and what not. But this summer I want to be driving it!

california has a dry southern region but up north its just like seattle and they have a salt water coast all the way down the western edge

most proper rust free classics from the usa are in nevada (las vegas home state) they get a rediculous low amount of rain fall and somehow they have negative humidity! (not sure how you can get dryer than 0%) there are a few "salvage yards" out there bigger than our smallest state delaware , also the first state in the union! on the east coast we call them JUNK YARDS ..there was a show on for a while and the father / son owners would pick a car and hot rod it in a week or two to sell at auction. out there bare steel can be left out in the elements for years and it barely looses its shine. here on the east coast (New Jersey) if i grind metal bare i must paint it that night or i will wake up to what we call "flash rust" . im 50 miles from the nearest salt water where i was born on Long Beach Island they moved all the car dealerships inland because brand new cars would oxidize and 1-2 year old left overs would actually rust! Under coating was an option in my area until around the mid 80's then every car manufacturer started applying it as a standard coating on all chassis inner fender wells and the back side of steel bumpers. it makes it hard to find older cars and parts out here but there is no shortage of body shops and paint shops.

i have found over the years that jeep just did not expect these trucks to be around long enough to rot so they really over looked protection . even when they started using galvanized tubs the bolted and welded regular steel to the tubs causing Galvanic corrosion (also called ' dissimilar metal corrosion' or wrongly 'electrolysis') refers to corrosion damage induced when two dissimilar materials are coupled in a corrosive electrolyte.

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[CJ]

Thanks CJ! I found the jeep in the local classifieds. The guy lived about 5 mins away from me! It was imported from the USA at some point; not sure how many owners ago. So it's probably a California Jeep; that seems to be where people from BC go to find good condition old vehicles. If it weren't for the corners and seams the floor would be pretty much perfect. The sides however have a fair bit of bondo. ~~~

Like I said looks great - but... Looks like the tub was replaced... That really should and IS not a problem. I just bought a replacement tub for my 5.

The Jeep script on the tub is off, let me know if you want me to explain...

 

[BC CJ]

The store is called 'Princess Auto.' Bit of an odd name when I think about it. It's full of tools and guy stuff; mostly the in house brand 'power fist.' It's nice to find cheap stuff but it's pretty hit and miss: sometimes the product is fine and cheap, woo-hoo! But often the product is garbage. Cheap is still a waste of money when the junk breaks.:down:

 

[BC CJ]

Like I said looks great - but... Looks like the tub was replaced... That really should and IS not a problem. I just bought a replacement tub for my 5.

The Jeep script on the tub is off, let me know if you want me to explain...

I think you are referring to the 'Jeep' word being lower on the cowl than most intermediate CJ5s. I have been finding the same base color of white on the tub and fenders... but I suppose it may all have been swapped out once upon a time. It is a 75, the change year, so I thought it may be original.

It would be interesting to know for sure... I like the history connected to an old Jeep. But either way it is a pretty solid body and that's the main thing. You may have noticed from my laid back attitude about this Jeep project that it isn't a restoration

 

[CJ]

I think you are referring to the 'Jeep' word being lower on the cowl than most intermediate CJ5s. I have been finding the same base color of white on the tub and fenders... but I suppose it may all have been swapped out once upon a time. It is a 75, the change year, so I thought it may be original.

It would be interesting to know for sure... I like the history connected to an old Jeep. But either way it is a pretty solid body and that's the main thing. You may have noticed from my laid back attitude about this Jeep project that it isn't a restoration

Not so much the lower location but the lettering. I find a few 75's that have the block letters but many that do not. Officially the Jeep lettering changed in 76 - but I'm not so sure.

Here is a pic of my 72 (the body is from another 72 I had), yours, and the 75 Wiki shot...

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

The store is called 'Princess Auto.' Bit of an odd name when I think about it. It's full of tools and guy stuff; mostly the in house brand 'power fist.' It's nice to find cheap stuff but it's pretty hit and miss: sometimes the product is fine and cheap, woo-hoo! But often the product is garbage. Cheap is still a waste of money when the junk breaks.:down:

sounds like "harbor freight " down here! you can buy an angle grinder for $10 and a 30 piece screwdriver set for $5 but if you know what your looking at you can find things that are a great value. a $50 drill press is probably not a good idea but i have a $20 hvlp spray gun that is a binks copy and if it gets gummed up i can just toss it! 10 rolls of electrical tape for $3 is always a good buy too along with 1000 mixed zip ties for $5

 

[BC CJ]

Here is a 75 ad with the same 'Jeep' as I have. But it is the newer style 75, mine should be the old style having a production date of December 1974. Mind you I have the tub holes for that radio antena.

Not that it matters but maybe I painted my windshield the wrong color . Auto companies usually do produce vehicles about half a year ahead of time.

 

[BC CJ]

A couple more little details:

I painted the letters back onto the 4x4 shifter with a tooth pick. Not sure it was worth the effort but it's done now. And I hit the holes in the seats with the same spray paint as the dash; now the glaring, yellow foam is kinda camaflouged. It looks better


And I'm not sure when I'll be able to buy new shocks so I, very quickly, painted the old ones. They'll pass as pro comps right?? One actually works great; two ever so slowly extend; and one is a total dud.

 

[BC CJ]

Project update: Exterior

Auto body professionals avert your eyes! The ‘rust paint restoration’ is complete (for now). Here she is:


The whole clean up and painting of this Jeep cost around 400 bucks and ¾ of that was the decals, shifter boots, and sun visors, ah-hem, and shipping . It’s a Jeep on the cheap… for now. I know more expensive stuff will come up soon; namely tires.

So the paint has runs and brush strokes, the decals have wrinkles and I tore a hole in one by accident (fortunately it was the mid hood decal and I was able to line up the white pin stripes and just fill in the hole with black paint). Overall verdict: I’m a backyard hack. Oh well, that’s where the ‘rough’ in my thread comes from. I knew from the start nothing would be perfect. What I wanted, and I think I succeeded, was for the Jeep to look good from picture distance and to have the original, classic style that I love.

It looks so cool with those tires; too bad they are next to go. I need handling that doesn’t scare me more than the cool look.


I did some fancy free hand painting on the ‘Jeep.’


The decals take some skill to put on. Unfortunately I didn’t have the skill until I was pretty much done. But on the plus side the damage I did to the hood stripe isn’t even noticeable after the touch up paint.


Best of all, the previous owners have been painted away. Now it is truly my Jeep, the way I’ve always wanted! And it feels darn good!


So that’s phase one with this Jeep. As mentioned, I’ll be away from this project for a couple months but when I get back to it, it’ll be time for phase two. Phase two will be about getting everything to work properly: tires, shocks, brake work, electrical work; but I should be able to drive it in between tasks and I’m really looking forward to that!

Thanks for reading, responding, or just checking out the pics everyone!

 

[Petescj]

It looks good to me. Like the decals. It came together pretty nice with all the black accents. Well done.

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

yeah buddy it was a home run! you really pulled off a sweet looking jeep pretty fast and pretty cheap and thats what its all about! having fun without a car payment to me is really all we can ask for. i know a sign guy thats going to make me some vinyl decals with a uv coating for under $100 bucks he said he can even adjust the size of the old school "jeep" letters (the ones with the square corners ) like a 72 and they will fit right over the stamped newer "jeep" logos on the front of the tub. i looked at an old Jeep Keiser and i love the older style lettering . i may start cutting up some 1/4" plate to make my own frame patches , if i get that done in the next few days it will be time for body work!

Once again congrats on the awesome job youve done i know you must be going crazy bc you have to leave it behind during your travels , but when you get home and take her out im sure you will forget all about it... I also just learned that alot of utility companys in the 60's and 70's converted there service vehicles to propane so if they had to go to remote wooded locations (no gas stations) they could get in and out without refuling! lots of power companies used jeeps back in the day to get to far-out and hard to navigate power lines and sub stations. So maybe your blue baby started life as a utility truck! I also saw a CJ5 with a back hoe attachment on the back for digging trenches , these babys truley are the most useful 4x4 trucks ever invented ! not to mention a poop load of fun..

thx brian

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

i want one of these really bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BC CJ]

Thanks Pete!

Brian, yeah I'll be getting a bit squirrly waiting to get back to my Jeep! I have a cool book to read though. "Jeep CJ Rebuilder's Manual 72-86." by Moses Ludel. Since the next phase of this Jeep will reqire some mechanical skills I may as well start learning about it. And thanks! I'm feeling pretty lucky that I found this Jeep. It didn't reqire any major body or frame repair. That allowed me to finish the clean-up and paint so fast. I'm a happy Jeeper!

 

[CJ BRIAN NJ]

Thanks Pete!

Brian, yeah I'll be getting a bit squirrly waiting to get back to my Jeep! I have a cool book to read though. "Jeep CJ Rebuilder's Manual 72-86." by Moses Ludel. Since the next phase of this Jeep will reqire some mechanical skills I may as well start learning about it. And thanks! I'm feeling pretty lucky that I found this Jeep. It didn't reqire any major body or frame repair. That allowed me to finish the clean-up and paint so fast. I'm a happy Jeeper!

i have been trying to download that book and " the jeep owners bible" for a couple weeks now but everytime i get them near 85-90% the download fails i did however get the haynes , the chiltons , and a factory service manual for cj's and scramblers! i have them all on a zip drive and i will be going to a copy center to have them printed and bound ! i have 4500 pages to print so my kodak will eat $200 worth of ink and paper if i try printing at home let us know how you like the rebuilders manual! my sister manages my towns library so she has ordered all the cj related books from all libraries in my county , they are all coming in slowly but surley

 

[Petescj]

Thats a pretty good choice of reading material. Nice to see your thinking ahead. I have the Jeep Bible by Moses Ludel but the rebuilders manual will serve your purpose better.

Thanks Pete!
I have a cool book to read though. "Jeep CJ Rebuilder's Manual 72-86." by Moses Ludel.