Starter brand recommendations?

[1994ranger]

All,

I have a 79 CJ7 with a 360 from a 79 Wagoneer. It has a T-176 Transmission , though I am unsure of the year (might not matter). The Jeep starts great when dead cold, but when warm (even after run for a few minutes), it suffers from weak engine crank. It sounds like the battery is dead and the starter is moving slow.

I talked with a friend and he thinks its the starter. I don't know the age/make of the current starter, but is the larger OE-style one. Does anyone have a starter brand they recommend? I'd like to stick w/ the OE style (solenoid on the starter). I'm eyeballing the Powermaster 3212 or the Power Select 3212N.

Thanks!

 

[JimsCJ5]

I'm a fan of using a local rebuilder. The starters I have gotten from my guy have always been better than stock and for a great price.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

How old is this battery?
Go to NAPA, and have them load test the battery.
If OK on the battery-get a starter there.
LG

 

[1994ranger]

How old is this battery?
Go to NAPA, and have them load test the battery.
If OK on the battery-get a starter there.
LG

LG - I will do that. Thanks for the suggestion. What do you think of the high-torque starters? Do you think it would be overkill?

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Go with NAPA Gold line OEM type ..........
LG

 

[RiverandSand]

Could be a case of heat soak, how close is your exhaust pipe/manifold (headers) to the starter. A heat shield maybe needed. Also how heavy are your cables to the starter? If to lightweight they can't carry enough current when hot.
I like the Powermaster line of starters and alternators, I have a PM starter on mine.

 

[1994ranger]

Could be a case of heat soak, how close is your exhaust pipe/manifold (headers) to the starter. A heat shield maybe needed. Also how heavy are your cables to the starter? If to lightweight they can't carry enough current when hot.
I like the Powermaster line of starters and alternators, I have a PM starter on mine.

I think it probably is related to heat soak and I've heard new production starters handle it better, plus this starter sounds tired anyhow. Starter is a few inches from the factory manifolds (not running headers) but seems to have enough clearance. I have all new cables (4 AWG). I'll get some pics tonight. Could heat soak take place in 10-15 minutes of run time? Starter isn't hot to the touch.

What type of Powermaster do you have? I am eyeballing the 3212.

 

[RiverandSand]

I believe it's a 3510 PM starter, I've had it awhile, also have a 00 cable to the starter. As LG said have the starting system load checked, most of the parts chain stores do it free. Heat soak can happen in a very short time if the conditions are right. If the starter isn't hot to the touch, then its probably not the issue.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Mount your GND lead from the battery, to the top mounting bolt of the starter.
LG

 

[1994ranger]

Mount your GND lead from the battery, to the top mounting bolt of the starter.
LG

LG, to be sure I understand, I've attached some pictures. You're saying I should move the ground from the engine block (below):


To the top bolt of the starter (below):


Based on this thread that I found, I think this is what you're saying but I wanted to be sure. Thanks! https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/...ter-alternator-dedicated-ground-buss-1235308/

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Yes
LG