What's up with the WRANGLER?

[PaRenegade]

Correct. It was AMC/Jeep Corp. then AMC/Jeep Renault around 1980 or so and they owned a controlling chunk of AMC after a "bailout" of sorts. Then they sold the whole thing to Chrysler in 87.

 

[jdulmer]

Sorry for the confusion...



"Libertatem Aut Mortem"

 

[Old Dog]

Might as well throw my 2 cents in here.
The "real jeep" ended when Willys sold out.
AMC killed the cj name, so Chrysler renamed it, hoping to regain some buyer faith.

I pretty much ride with all the 4x4's no matter what they are.

 

[Petescj]

AMC killed the cj name

Wow I think thats a bit harsh. While AMC was always kind of a "grab bag" company they put alot of good solid parts in the Cj. We just spend alot of time bagging on the weak ones.

 

[jzak]

I respect older Wrangler owners. You own a 1989 wrangler, your probably going through the same pain and suffering as the rest of us CJ guys! I even occasionally wave at the newer Jeeps, just as long as it looks like they've gotten their hands dirty.

I just can't relate with people who buy a new Jeep, so they can have the modern comforts of a Suburban, while still thinking they own a REAL Off-Roader. It's like that guy who owns a H2, instead of getting the original HUMMER. It just seems like they're not getting the point of the off-road lifestyle!

If you don't have enough tools in your Jeep to possibly repair a blown rear axle on the side of the road, then your Jeep is too new!!

 

[gr8dain]

After having to get my family to help me roll start my CJ in order to get my Jeep home from work. I can see the desire for a more "turn it and go" Wrangler. But I will continue to drive my CJ. Just another thing to figure out. Gotta find out why a new battery won't turn the engine over and would not charge on the drive home.


Dain

 

[Neuner]

You own a 1989 wrangler, your probably going through the same pain and suffering as the rest of us CJ guys!

I think you're right on. Followed a Wrangler thread to investigate a hydraulic clutch conversion. They were a btchn and moanin the same only they didn't get no respect from anyone with their rectangular head lights.

 

[Suz]

I think you're right on. Followed a Wrangler thread to investigate a hydraulic clutch conversion. They were a btchn and moanin the same only they didn't get no respect from anyone with their rectangular head lights.

Just can't help it. Never liked the "square eyes"...

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[Petescj]

I think you're right on. Followed a Wrangler thread to investigate a hydraulic clutch conversion. They were a btchn and moanin the same only they didn't get no respect from anyone with their rectangular head lights.

My nieces husband just bought one so I'm sure I'll get some firsthand knowledge on the square eyed beast.

 

[rockinreel]

I'm in a jeep club and while I'm very proud to be one of the few CJ's in the club, the other YJ, TJ, JK's are very off road worthy. Been to Jeep Beach in Daytona a few times, and those four door JK's customized and decked out can walk up rock piles easier with the longer wheel base (of course it depends on how far the rocks are spaced apart). (FYI, the Daytona infield obstacle course).

So, as biased as I was about legacy jeeps before I joined the local jeep club, I admire all jeeps now. With front and rear lockers and 33x13.5's tires, my jeep is well equipped to handle rough terrain, but those newer Jeeps are off road beast too. Just sayin.

BTW, this site has helped me tremendously with upgrading my jeep. So I owe ya'll one big thanks.

 

[PaRenegade]

Just to clarify. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I dislike Wranglers. I just don't like when people mistakenly link them as a direct descendent of the Jeep. They are no different than another 4x4 model. They just happen to be produced by a company with the same name.

 

[mtnwhlr]

Boy Suz you sure know how to open a can of worms

 

[Suz]

Boy Suz you sure know how to open a can of worms

So it seems. You guys are a trip...

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[ThisGuyUKnow]

Just to clarify. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I dislike Wranglers. I just don't like when people mistakenly link them as a direct descendent of the Jeep. They are no different than another 4x4 model. They just happen to be produced by a company with the same name.

I disagree but I've already ranted about it on other threads. It's kinda like saying the 2014 mustang isn't a direct descendant of the original stangs from the 60s

 

[PaRenegade]

I disagree but I've already ranted about it on other threads. It's kinda like saying the 2014 mustang isn't a direct descendant of the original stangs from the 60s

No, it's not like that at all. Those are both mustangs, one being a retro to honor the original from many years earlier. A Jeep and a Wrangler were 2 different models from the start and made at the same time, one in production, one in pre-production. And if the company that manf. both vehicles says they are different vehicles, well, it's kinda hard to deny, especially when you look at all the differences between the two.
The similarities, well, an open air design is something common to the LandCruiser, the Bronco, the Trooper, etc. The optional AMC 258 i6 / 4.2l inline 6? A GM motor overstocked in the parts bin already bought and paid for, when the company was sold. The door latches, well, they probably fir several applications. That's about it, since the 7 slot grille is applied to every Jeep brand model.

 

[gr8dain]

I was just looking in a Q-tec catalog I got to the LED tail lamp kits. Their own brand lights were listed as "For '76-'80 Wrangler" and "For '81-'86 Wrangler". I thought of this thread.


Dain

 

[IOPort51]

The only things a new mustang has in common with an old mustang is both being made by ford. Understanding what the original mustang was, having been there at the time, I would say that the 65 stang had more in common with a Scion than to a 2014 mustang. It was a kid car. simple, cheap, fun to drive and cool looking. In reality the early stang was a Falcon with less interior space, bucket seats and a floor shift. Read Iococcas book to learn what an original Mustang was all about. Believe it or not , he did not always work for Dodge.

CJs are different from wranglers, more primitive, pre-60 minutes dangerous, a time when someone had not decided to protect you from yourself.

 

[Tfain]

Cjs and wranglers are very different but if they didn't build them with the extra luxuries then the "jeep life" very well may have died out. And as far as the "real jeep" thing go's sorry but a cj isn't anymore of a jeep than a yj or a tj. Cjs didn't fight in any wars so what makes it a "real jeep". Cause it doesn't have the comforts the wranglers have. So if you buy a newer 4x4 truck does that not make it a real truck because it has more luxuries. Also they did Cary the culture of the older jeeps with them. They all have the 7 grill slots. As long as they wave there good in my opinion

 

[pierrednepr]

I'm not so sure that's correct -- isn't my 66 CJ5 F-Head is more or less a de-militarized version of the M38A1 of the Korean and Vietnam war? As far as I know most of the parts interchange - short of the 12 volts electrical, beefier frame and suspension and the lack of a tailgate on the M38A1

I like the wrangler too... more comfy and definitely faster. I nearly bought one before I found my 66 - In the end , I prefer my CJ - its rugged with a real tailgate and has no carpet.

I bought it to replace my Russian Dnepr motorbike + sidecar combo because the wife would not ride with me. With the CJ she does come with me once in a while. She says I'm riding a lawnmower but that's her - she needs her A/C to be happy.

 

[PaRenegade]

And as far as the "real jeep" thing go's sorry but a cj isn't anymore of a jeep than a yj or a tj. Cjs didn't fight in any wars so what makes it a "real jeep".

A "cj's" model name is "Jeep". a "yj or tj's" model name is "Wrangler". Couldn't be any plainer. The first CJ was an MB pulled right off the production line, stripped of it's military accessories and modded it for civilian use. Throughout the entire 45 year run of the Jeep "M's" were made into "CJ's" and "CJ's" were made into "M's". The term "real Jeep" refers to "the Jeep", not some brand that still didn't even exist.

[FONT=&quot]"The quarter-ton Jeep earned a worldwide reputation for ruggedness and versatility in wartime. That tradition has continued for more than four decades that the CJ has been sold to the public. Completion of the CJ production will signal an end of a very important era in Jeep history". - Joseph Cappy, AMC VP of Production- 29 november 1985[/FONT]