Rust bolts on the skid plate
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Rust bolts on the skid plate
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Torxhead
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So just what are the two holes for?
Shane1977CJ5
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To get to the nuts on top of these two bolts.
Torxhead
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Thanks for sending in the pic, a concern would be the weakening of the frame at that location. One suggestion, since you live in a rust prone area, would be to weld plates over those holes with a duplicate hole in them. Say about a 3/16" thick, and if you did it to all those skid plate hole locations, you would always be able to replace a rusted out nut. I am sure there are quite a few ways to repair it and hopefully you will get more suggestions, one being that my idea is crazy. On mine, I drilled a few holes on the bottom of the frame to let the water drain out. Those dropped skid plates really screw up the breakover angle.
Shane1977CJ5
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Thanks Torxhead I'll most likely weld plates over the current holes. Well after I finish the skid plate removal/install.
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Drill and tap to 1/2"x28thd. Easy to do from the 7/16" dia they are at.
Make sure you coat the new bolts with copper anti-seize when install'n the new GD 8 bolts and washers.
LG
Make sure you coat the new bolts with copper anti-seize when install'n the new GD 8 bolts and washers.
LG
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Sorry. Is the frame itself threaded?
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Nut plates inside the frame was OEM.
LG
LG
TeamRush
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Cadmium plated bolts when you change,
Use 'Never-Seize' on the bolts, and be GENEROUS INSIDE THE 'NUTS'.
That will push a 'Dome' of 'Never-Seize' up on the top of the bolt threads when the threads push through the nut and help slow rust/corrosion.
Dropped skid plates usually aren't required unless you have a TON of lift and have to 'Clock' the Transfer Case 'Down' to straighten out drive shaft angles.
Can't tell from the picture how much lift or what the drive line angles look like...
Drilling a SMALL hole (like 1/4") next to the frame Nut so you can squirt some penetrating oil or lubricant on the bolt extending through the nut will help get those suckers out.
This is EXTENSIVE, so I'm not trying to sell it as a home game...
You *CAN* drill a hole all the way through the frame,
Weld in tubing to keep the frame from crushing when the bolts tighten,
And use a LONG, but common bolt and nut, so you can get at both sides.
I usually do this when the frame is bare, it's a bit of a pain to weld the top when the body is still on...
It's called a 'Frame Gusset', and it's a VERY good way to do things when you have access to the areas it's needed.
Gussets also help spread the load out, which helps the frame from cracking over the long haul.
Use 'Never-Seize' on the bolts, and be GENEROUS INSIDE THE 'NUTS'.
That will push a 'Dome' of 'Never-Seize' up on the top of the bolt threads when the threads push through the nut and help slow rust/corrosion.
Dropped skid plates usually aren't required unless you have a TON of lift and have to 'Clock' the Transfer Case 'Down' to straighten out drive shaft angles.
Can't tell from the picture how much lift or what the drive line angles look like...
Drilling a SMALL hole (like 1/4") next to the frame Nut so you can squirt some penetrating oil or lubricant on the bolt extending through the nut will help get those suckers out.
This is EXTENSIVE, so I'm not trying to sell it as a home game...
You *CAN* drill a hole all the way through the frame,
Weld in tubing to keep the frame from crushing when the bolts tighten,
And use a LONG, but common bolt and nut, so you can get at both sides.
I usually do this when the frame is bare, it's a bit of a pain to weld the top when the body is still on...
It's called a 'Frame Gusset', and it's a VERY good way to do things when you have access to the areas it's needed.
Gussets also help spread the load out, which helps the frame from cracking over the long haul.
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Thanks, TR. Great advice. I have nuts that are stripped on mine, and was uncertain how I would proceed.
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Since you have the body off, my choice would be TeamRush's suggestion; drill through the frame, sleeve the hole and do a through bolt fix. It works (I've done it before).
Worried about getting the bolt out after the body is on? Not as big a deal as you'd think (I've had to do that too,
). Cut of wheel, sawsall or hot wrench to the bolt head, the threaded rod drops out the bottom. When you go back with new hardware, a nut and lock washer goes on top and the bolt goes in from the bottom. Or threaded rod with nuts and washers on top and bottom.
Clean out the inside of the frame before you weld the holes up. Looks like you've got plenty of places to hose at it from.
That's some serious drop to that pan you got!
Worried about getting the bolt out after the body is on? Not as big a deal as you'd think (I've had to do that too,
). Cut of wheel, sawsall or hot wrench to the bolt head, the threaded rod drops out the bottom. When you go back with new hardware, a nut and lock washer goes on top and the bolt goes in from the bottom. Or threaded rod with nuts and washers on top and bottom.Clean out the inside of the frame before you weld the holes up. Looks like you've got plenty of places to hose at it from.
That's some serious drop to that pan you got!
Shane1977CJ5
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. Also it's got a
Shane1977CJ5
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I will get a better picture tomorrow so that maybe you can see the lift and drive line angles.
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If you got a torch Heat the frame to see if you can remove the bolts without breaking the bolt (or the nut loose). If you break the nut loose you might be able to do what I've done. If the frame has a factory hole or slot cut into it, cut a piece of 1/8" flat stock and spot weld a nut on it. Use a flexible (2' long, 3 fingers for picking up nuts or bolts in tight spots) part pick er up er (don't know what they are called) and you can place the nut inside the frame with out cutting. Also if you do have to cut, one hole could do all of them. I've also done this for the spring hanger bolts.
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I think this is what jammer1 is talking about: Amazon.com: flexible pickup tool
Here is a picture:
I've also used a wire wrapped around a bolt to fish it into a hole. Works pretty good.
Here is a picture:
I've also used a wire wrapped around a bolt to fish it into a hole. Works pretty good.
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Any reason to use the copper type of anti-seize, or will any type of anti-seize work?
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I have found copper to provide the best all around long life.
Use a 'dab' of it on your wheel lugs also.
LG
Use a 'dab' of it on your wheel lugs also.
LG
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That's it, It works great.I think this is what jammer1 is talking about: Amazon.com: flexible pickup tool
Here is a picture:
I've also used a wire wrapped around a bolt to fish it into a hole. Works pretty good.
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