What did you do to or with your CJ today?

[Hedgehog]

Honestly I'm so darned discouraged right now I'd like to take the darned thing and crush it. Oh I won't do it, no guts here for that. This weekend I'll have to crawl under the darned thing, set it on blocks, pull the wheels, disconnect the rear spring shackles and drop the axle down to make getting to the bolts easier and pull the cover ....... all this while completely pissing off the HOA.

Other than blowing up a gear, how??????? All I can think of that might have happened would be a loose bolt or nut was dropped in the diff. case before putting on the cover ... then again I foolishly left the fill plug open and I did loose a cover bolt during the install, but I also had a whole hand full of bolts so loosing track was to easy to do. One thing I am sure of is the set up. That was checked about a dozen times ..... I suppose there is a slight possibility that the gear was too deep ..... But the gear ran super quiet, there was no apparent back lash like you find in old warn out gears .... Errrrr the whole thing makes me entirely to upset right now. Almost the whole jeep project has turned out well, now I feel like an overly ambitious 13 year old that can't put his mini bike back together. Before it is said, yes my confidence is a little bruised and I'm feeling sorry for myself right now.

........ Also be advised that I'm not a troll. You know the kind, he asks for advice, but never uses it. Then 5 minutes after declaring some minor technical victory grabs up a screw driver or plier undoing any good that was previously accomplished essentially starting over again.

 

[Torxhead]

Ditto on Lumpy's previous post.

 

[Lumpy Grits]

HH-wish I was closer to your AO.
Be glad to lend a hand and drink your beer.
Is the pinion loose at all?
Please keep us updated-We've all been where you are. Turn wrenches long enough, it will happen.

LG

 

[Hedgehog]

Sorry for the negativity. Just taking a deep breath. Before moving on.

I work for the City of Tucson, no cost of living raises in 15 years, can't afford beer anymore.....

The pinion had the proper preload on it when installed. Can't yet say about today. After seeing the oil leaking out I grabbed a hammer, pounded the hole more or less closed and drove ~15 miles on home with absolutely no difficulties. The remainder of the oil dribbled into a pan in the driveway.

 

[mriplaybass]

Well I'm a liar liar pants on fire type guy ...... I did take the CJ out fully intending on getting some supplies, that is after going to the dump. Unfortunately while doing just that I broke my CJ, no really I seriously broke the differential housing. We are talking holes for oil/grease to leak out. ..... I hate this, damn it all.

Holes? or cracks? does it look like something punctured the case? or are there some cracks that are allowing the oil to leak out? As LG says, pictures would be great so we can all help you to avoid a repeat of this situation when you get your next axle. Lots of things that can damage a case. Guess how I know this!

 

[Hedgehog]

It is definitely an inside out punch hole. Something is rattling around in there. In this case I'm sure I got caught between the ring gear and the case punching a hole at the very bottom just inside the bolt ring for the cover. I had heard something that didn't sound right. I actually thought it was my second gear going out because it only made the sound when shifting into second. When I added oil/grease to the Transmission , which really needed it, I was sure the problem was solved. Then While slowly backing up the jeep did a sudden stutter binding stall. Shortly there after it did the same moving forward. After that it ran and drove well. Like I wrote earlier, when the hole was noticed I hammered the hole more or less closed and headed home. Something is definitely loose flying around in there.

 

[mriplaybass]

I had the exact same thing happen to our 1940s vintage farm tractor. A piece of the oil slinger gear broke off and wedged between the teeth of 2 meshing gears.
My boat sits in the barn awaiting repairs for a similar problem. A piece of a heavy washer which is part of the wrist pin retaining assembly, cracked in half and began dancing around inside the crank case. Eventually, the piece aligned itself at exactly the right moment to become wedged between the connecting rod and the crank case. End result was a hole large enough to see the crank shaft rotating. Weird thing is, the engine still runs and idles smooth as silk! Yet another project to look forward to!

 

[BigCountry008]

I drew a sketch and had it turned into a sticker and put it on my CJ5

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[gr8dain]

Moved my body to a new frame today

https://vimeo.com/156112240

 

[Woolyworm]

Nice! That's a big step forward for sure!

I pulled my spiders in prep for my locker install. Did a little frame painting, and made some progress on my wiring.

I thought I had bought an Aussie for the locker but it turns out to be what I think is a powertrax no slip - can anyone confirm?

Wooly

 

[Woolyworm]

My dad brought up this photo of my grandfather in Italy during WW2 - he was a bridge and demolition engineer - guess I know why I like wrenching and building stuff!

My carrier bearing have a little back and forth movement in them - how much is too much?

Wooly

 

[Hedgehog]

Any carrier bearing movement in unacceptable. Fact is there should be some preload on the bearing.

 

[Woolyworm]

Okay, next question. I know I can remove the carrier and ring gear and then reassemble without needing adjustment - can I also replace the bearings without resetting the R&P?


Wooly

 

[Woolyworm]

Here is the side bearing play. https://vimeo.com/156151405


Wooly

 

[Posi]

You have too much backlash. I would inspect the carrier bearings.
If you remove the bearings you "may" need to adjust as well.
and very cool pic of your grandfather

 

[caveman]

You don't need new bearings. You need more shims. Who ever set that up didn't get it right.

 

[Woolyworm]

Ahhh - well this just keeps getting easier! Anyone want to tell me the play is okay!!


Wooly

 

[Neuner]

Ahhh - well this just keeps getting easier! Anyone want to tell me the play is okay!!


Wooly

Sure! It is perfectly acceptable.

Just a warning, I have absolutely no experience with them and most of the time I do not know what I'm doing.

 

[Posi]

Wooly, how long have you owned your CJ?
Lets say, at least 5 years, you DD every summer, and drive to the trail for wheeling.

If someone had been in there (case) before you bought the Jeep the gears have been flopping around for a long time, and no telling how long before you purchased it. If it were me, I'd inspect the carrier bearings. Just saying.

 

[caveman]

Back lash is the rotational distance the ring gear rotates without turning the pinion. What you have there is side play which you should have none.
Sometimes I have a problem explaining what my brain thinks. I hope you can make sense of this.