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Sputtering then dies

Sputtering then dies

TnCJ

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1980 CJ 5, 4.2 engine, D30,AMC 20, T176, Dana 300, MC 2100 carburetor.
Took the wife for a little drive the other evening in the Jeep. Everything was going fine until we hit the main highway about 10 miles from home.
Started going up a long incline and then it happened............started surging and sputtering. I thought "dang now what" anywho the engine died and I coasted onto the shoulder. I was going over in my mind who I was going to call to tow me back home because I figured this thing just aint gonna start. But to my surprise it fired right back up. I drove to the nearest turnaround and headed back to the house. About halfway home it did it again, I coasted as far as I could looking for a good place to pull to the side. We sat for a little while and I again cranked it, this time it took several tries to restart. When I got back on the road I checked my gauges, temp, oil pressure, volts, all normal. Gas gauge was showing 1/4 full but it's always a 1/4 off so I was pretty sure I still had a half tank of gas.
Long story short, we finally got back to the house after a couple more stalls.
When we got home I popped the hood and checked for anything obvious, everything looked pretty much normal, no loose wires, no gas leaks etc.
It was getting late by this time and I decided to let it rest and tackle it in the morning.
I kept going over in my mind what it could possibly be. To me, it felt like it was starving for gas.
Next morning I drove the truck to the auto parts store and bought a new fuel filter. Got home, took the old one off, installed the new one and told the wife to follow me down the road just in case. I made it almost back to the highway and it started acting up again. I turned around immediately and headed for home. It died several times on the way.
Finally made it home, took the line from the fuel pump off, stuck it in a jar and fired it up. According to the FSM it should pump at least a pint of fuel in 30 seconds. It did better than that, filled a quart up in less than 30 seconds.
So that pretty much ruled the fuel pump and filter out.
I was then thinking it must be an electrical problem and was about to order a new dizzy.
But on second thought I still couldn't get it out of my mind that it was acting just like it was running out of gas.
On a whim I disconnected the fuel line from the fuel pump, took the gas cap off and blew air back to the tank thinking there must be a blockage in the line or who knows what kind of :dung: is in the bottom of the tank. Hooked everything back up and went for a drive. I've driven it for two days now and not another hiccup. [knock on wood].
I know what I did is just a temporary fix, and don't recommend anyone else do it. It's just a matter of time that it will do it again.
I plan on dropping the tank this week and flushing it out, maybe put a handful of marbles in there and swish them around. Also going to replace the sending unit while I have it out as it isn't accurate and it has a screen on the pickup tube that is probably in bad shape.
Hopefully that'll fix it..............until something else breaks down lol.
 
Try it with the gas cap loose.
Add at least 5-6 gallons of gas.
When it dies-Check to see how hot the coil is.
You should kinda be able to keep your hand on the coil.
Also-You still using that POS, OEM horseshoe connector on the coil?
That's a well known problem area.
LG
 
Try it with the gas cap loose.
Add at least 5-6 gallons of gas.
When it dies-Check to see how hot the coil is.
You should kinda be able to keep your hand on the coil.
Also-You still using that POS, OEM horseshoe connector on the coil?
That's a well known problem area.
LG
LG, I was leaning towards a bad coil or the dizzy going bad. They are both original and just a matter of time before they go out.
But, after I blew my fuel line out and put a new fuel filter on it hasn't missed a lick in two days of driving. And I drove the :dung: out of it just trying to make it die. Sooo i'm thinking [hoping] it was a gas issue after all.
Like I said in my original post though, I am going to drop the gas tank and give it a good cleaning.
I am going to replace the coil and possibly the dizzy ASAP.
 
Fill the tank with prem and a fuel cleaner and go for a drive.
Run a dedicated GND(-)lead from your dash panel, to the battery NEG(-)and see if the corrects your fuel gauge reading issue.
Double ck the GND from the battery is tight to where ever you have it bolted
to.
Get rid of that coil horseshoe connector.
LG
 
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When I was married to a former spouse, we had a 71 Pontiac that would do much the same as your described. Start it, drive it, it would sputter and die just like it was running out of gas. I tried replacing all sorts of things, before I finally pulled the gas tank and cleaned it out. Put it back in, filled it with fresh gas, and never had that problem again. YMMV.
 
When I was married to a former spouse, we had a 71 Pontiac that would do much the same as your described. Start it, drive it, it would sputter and die just like it was running out of gas. I tried replacing all sorts of things, before I finally pulled the gas tank and cleaned it out. Put it back in, filled it with fresh gas, and never had that problem again. YMMV.
That's reassuring! Been driving it for several days now and so far so good after "back flushing" the fuel line. I still need to drop the tank and give it a good cleaning out because all I did the other day was blow all the :dung: back into the tank. Will just be a matter of time before it happens again if I don't.
I'm just glad I got lucky and figured it out before I started replacing parts. Sometimes these simple problems are hard to pinpoint, I hate chasing my tail lol.
 
Carry spare fuel filters with you.
LG
 

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